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cell division vs. cell multiplying to the advanced mycologist
#17868706 - 02/26/13 12:01 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I read some where that mushrooms grow by cell division and not by cell multiplying. Does this mean as mushrooms grow bigger they "lose potency"? If this were true, 3 grams. of tiny shrooms would be alot more potent than one, 3 gram shroom of the same strain. Please any info from an experienced mycologist.
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Re: cell division vs. cell multiplying to the advanced mycologist [Re: first time expert]
#17869128 - 02/26/13 01:22 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cell division is cell multiplication, its how every single living organism grows/reproduces.
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Re: cell division vs. cell multiplying to the advanced mycologist [Re: colombdcali]
#17869181 - 02/26/13 01:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Once the cap opens, this tells the mushroom to stop producing actives and focus on spore production.
You will have the best active to weight ratio if you harvest right as or right before the veil is about to tear.
Once the cap opens, it's just putting on water weight, and kind of watering down the actives, just a little.
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Re: cell division vs. cell multiplying to the advanced mycologist [Re: PussyFart]
#17891244 - 03/02/13 09:23 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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In science division, and multiplication are the same. And i do not think this is an advanced mycology question.
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Re: cell division vs. cell multiplying to the advanced mycologist [Re: omegafaust]
#17893124 - 03/02/13 04:40 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Division occurs in meoisis where-as multiplication is mitosis.
Meoisis is when the DNA is cut in half to allow to allow for genetic variation through sexual reproduction, in mitosis the DNA is replicated or cloned.
Good question imo.
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Re: cell division vs. cell multiplying to the advanced mycologist [Re: teknix]
#17893140 - 03/02/13 04:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Monokaryotes (Haploids) have only have the genes necessary to fruit compared to the dikaryotes (Diploids) which can fruit.
The monokaryotes can copy themselves but they aren't "complete".
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Re: cell division vs. cell multiplying to the advanced mycologist [Re: teknix]
#17893382 - 03/02/13 05:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Regardless of where or how they happen, it is still one cell becoming two and so on and so forth, in both instances. So fundamentally, they are the same.
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Re: cell division vs. cell multiplying to the advanced mycologist [Re: first time expert]
#17899473 - 03/03/13 08:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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first time expert said: I read some where that mushrooms grow by cell division and not by cell multiplying. Does this mean as mushrooms grow bigger they "lose potency"? If this were true, 3 grams. of tiny shrooms would be alot more potent than one, 3 gram shroom of the same strain. Please any info from an experienced mycologist.
Perhaps you're asking about the density of the cell mass in the mushroom, adjusted for water weight. Many say that Aborts are more potent by weight, and this seems to be true. My understanding is that the cells begin to swell with water as the fruit body develops, and this expansion of cell volume is responsible for much of the size increase. I'm trying to learn too; could anyone verify this?
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Re: cell division vs. cell multiplying to the advanced mycologist [Re: omegafaust]
#17899671 - 03/03/13 08:50 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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omegafaust said: Regardless of where or how they happen, it is still one cell becoming two and so on and so forth, in both instances. So fundamentally, they are the same.
The S phase of Interphase would probably be more related to a multiplication and the cleavage furrow in Meta phase would be more related to a division. (imo)
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Re: cell division vs. cell multiplying to the advanced mycologist [Re: Jabbawaya]
#17899700 - 03/03/13 08:54 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jabbawaya said:
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first time expert said: I read some where that mushrooms grow by cell division and not by cell multiplying. Does this mean as mushrooms grow bigger they "lose potency"? If this were true, 3 grams. of tiny shrooms would be alot more potent than one, 3 gram shroom of the same strain. Please any info from an experienced mycologist.
Perhaps you're asking about the density of the cell mass in the mushroom, adjusted for water weight. Many say that Aborts are more potent by weight, and this seems to be true. My understanding is that the cells begin to swell with water as the fruit body develops, and this expansion of cell volume is responsible for much of the size increase. I'm trying to learn too; could anyone verify this?
If you think about it, what is the majority of a cell made of in the first place?
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