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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: The_Aviator]
    #17819364 - 02/17/13 02:11 PM (11 years, 15 days ago)

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I would just like to make sure everyone here understands that CBD has zero psychoactive effects on you, besides a, and I mean a VERY noticeable difference in physical effects.. CBD's are the part of bud that gives you that numbing and couch lock... Unless you have a very serious injury I don't quite understand why you want a CBD based salve/oil?




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Go educate yourself. Just because it "doesn't get you high" doesn't mean it doesn't have beneficial effects. You're acting like we're all just a bunch of drug fiends that are only interested in things that get us high.





errr... did you really just try to make me look dumb by reiterating my own words?  :goodluckwiththat:

If you watched the video you just told me to watch, you would see they were saying exactly what I did. It has no psychoactive effects but it has physical effects. People with PTSD or Anxiety are getting the benefits of the THC combined with the CBD. CBD and CBN by themselves contain strictly physical effects....

I already said I meant no offense, and please do not try and tell somebody who has been working with Marijuana as a career for probably longer than you've even been smoking it, to "go educate themselves." The reason I said I was confused by somebody wanting a CBD based oil/salve is because I'm interested in the injury they obtained to find CBD/CBN to be the best choice. Just because I'm trying to do some personal research doesn't mean I think everybody here is "just here to get high."

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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: slh980] * 1
    #17819386 - 02/17/13 02:15 PM (11 years, 15 days ago)

You come into this thread to say you are sick of people talking about CBD. And then you assume that we all think it gets you high. How do you think you are coming across?


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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: The_Aviator]
    #17819412 - 02/17/13 02:20 PM (11 years, 15 days ago)

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You come into this thread to say you are sick of people talking about CBD. And then you assume that we all think it gets you high. How do you think you are coming across?




Actually, you assumed that I assumed you all thought it got you high. I assumed that most people are still unaware of what CBD is. That's why I said what I did, to clarify what it does. I'm sick of people talking about CBD because there are very few cases in which somebody actually needs a CBD/CBN based oil/salve. For the most part whatever effect people want from CBD/CBN can be obtained through regular combusted plant matter. /endrant

Sorry for taking the thread off-topic hidenseek

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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: hidenseek1]
    #17819622 - 02/17/13 02:25 PM (11 years, 15 days ago)

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can we jump off the hating slh980 bandwagon and talk about possible procedure?

or should i abandon this thread and start one in the chemistry forum




Most lab procedure would be done by tome type of chromatography (thin layer and gas come to mind). You could make extracts from vaporized weed, which already has a very low THC:CBD ratio.


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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: slh980]
    #17819646 - 02/17/13 02:31 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

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I'm sick of people talking about CBD because there are very few cases in which somebody actually needs a CBD/CBN based oil/salve. For the most part whatever effect people want from CBD/CBN can be obtained through regular combusted plant matter. /endrant




You should be aware that THC incites anxiety for most people that have anxiety disorders. OP could get a strain that has a very large CBD:THC ratio but otherwise a CBD tincture is the best bet.




Here you go, OP. All the information you need if you actually have access to chromatography equipment.
http://www.rexresearch.com/hhusb/hh6thc.htm
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Extract the dried cannabis with a suitable solvent for several hours at room temperature or by refluxing. Filter through charcoal to clarify the solution, then chill overnight to precipitate waxes, then filter the solution again. Concentrate it to one-half volume, and extract it with 2% aqueous sodium sulfate (to prevent oxidation). Separate the aqueous layer, and strip the solvent. The residue is crude hemp oil.

The odoriferous terpenes can be removed by steam or vacuum distillation. Cautious distillation in vacuo yields a fraction of crude red oil (bp 100-220° C/3 mm). This can be purified by redistillation or column chromatography. Use ethanol to remove the residue from the flask while it is still hot. Filter the solution through charcoal, and strip the solvent. Distill the residue to yield pure red oil (bp 175-195° C /2 mm). Distillation must be stopped if smoke appears, indicating decomposition.

Because THC is heat-sensitive, it is preferable to isolate the cannabinoids by column chromatography. The simplest method of column chromatography is performed with ethanol and ether extracts of hemp on alumina, yielding two major fractions: (1) chlorophyll, CBD, and CBN, and (2) THC. A second, more difficult method is performed on Florisil (use 10 times the weight of the oil) with the solvent system hexane:2% methanol. This yields a doubly-concentrated, viscous oil which can be repeatedly chromatographed on alumina to separate the THC and CBD.




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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: slh980]
    #17819656 - 02/17/13 02:32 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

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slh980 said:
I would just like to make sure everyone here understands that CBD has zero psychoactive effects on you, besides a, and I mean a VERY noticeable difference in physical effects.. CBD's are the part of bud that gives you that numbing and couch lock... Unless you have a very serious injury I don't quite understand why you want a CBD based salve/oil?




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Go educate yourself. Just because it "doesn't get you high" doesn't mean it doesn't have beneficial effects. You're acting like we're all just a bunch of drug fiends that are only interested in things that get us high.





errr... did you really just try to make me look dumb by reiterating my own words?  :goodluckwiththat:

If you watched the video you just told me to watch, you would see they were saying exactly what I did. It has no psychoactive effects but it has physical effects. People with PTSD or Anxiety are getting the benefits of the THC combined with the CBD. CBD and CBN by themselves contain strictly physical effects....

I already said I meant no offense, and please do not try and tell somebody who has been working with Marijuana as a career for probably longer than you've even been smoking it, to "go educate themselves." The reason I said I was confused by somebody wanting a CBD based oil/salve is because I'm interested in the injury they obtained to find CBD/CBN to be the best choice. Just because I'm trying to do some personal research doesn't mean I think everybody here is "just here to get high."



You say it is strictly physical, what do you mean by that? Like is it relaxing? I mean opiates are strictly physical too, but that doesn't mean they don't get you high. And it has to be somewhat psychoactive, or else how do you explain the anti-anxiety? But for real, that's what I'm interested in. I don't want it to get high, I just want less anxiety.

Well i take back part of that, yes opiates calm your mind and make you feel euphoric, but I guess my question is how does CBD compare to opiates?


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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: Joshuasca]
    #17819708 - 02/17/13 02:41 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

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You say it is strictly physical, what do you mean by that? Like is it relaxing? I mean opiates are strictly physical too, but that doesn't mean they don't get you high. And it has to be somewhat psychoactive, or else how do you explain the anti-anxiety? But for real, that's what I'm interested in. I don't want it to get high, I just want less anxiety.

Well i take back part of that, yes opiates calm your mind and make you feel euphoric, but I guess my question is how does CBD compare to opiates?




I guess they could be loosely related to opiates, just at a much weaker mental strength. It will definitely still make your mind a bit dull, but it doesn't have the same effects as THC. CBD/CBN will numb the body and mind and relax it. Then the THC kicks in and gives you the mental "WOAH"

I guess the best way to describe it....

THC = Psychedelic
CBD/CBN = Opiates

Hope that helps a bit.

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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: slh980]
    #17819750 - 02/17/13 02:47 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

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Joshuasca said:
You say it is strictly physical, what do you mean by that? Like is it relaxing? I mean opiates are strictly physical too, but that doesn't mean they don't get you high. And it has to be somewhat psychoactive, or else how do you explain the anti-anxiety? But for real, that's what I'm interested in. I don't want it to get high, I just want less anxiety.

Well i take back part of that, yes opiates calm your mind and make you feel euphoric, but I guess my question is how does CBD compare to opiates?




I guess they could be loosely related to opiates, just at a much weaker mental strength. It will definitely still make your mind a bit dull, but it doesn't have the same effects as THC. CBD/CBN will numb the body and mind and relax it. Then the THC kicks in and gives you the mental "WOAH"

I guess the best way to describe it....

THC = Psychedelic
CBD/CBN = Opiates

Hope that helps a bit.



Thanks. Definitely helps. I'm interested to give it a try. THC is just too anxious for me, so I feel like balancing it out with some CBD would do the trick.


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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: slh980]
    #17819762 - 02/17/13 02:49 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

Opiates are drugs that work on the opioid receptors. This produces a euphoric effect as well as the body high that one experience on opiates.

CBD on the other hand works on the GPR55 cannabinoid receptor. This interaction is thought to limit pain and inflammation through a physiological function that is not yet clear to researchers. But it does not produce the euphoria associated with opioid binding.


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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: Joshuasca]
    #17819788 - 02/17/13 02:55 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

Ditchweed is fairly easy to find in my neck of the woods. I occasionally smoke it for what I assume is CBD, but only when I don't have money for good weed. And I hate seeing beautiful plants go to waste.

If I smoke 2 large tobacco pipe bowl's worth of ground leaf and bud (there's hardly any bud because of pollination), or smoke ISO hash made from it, I get the bloodshot eyes, droopy eyelids, very relaxed, and some numbness. But the pain relief is more like a really good NSAID than an opiate. And there's practically no psychological effect at all besides the tired/relaxedness, which provides the anxiety relief. Sort of like low dose benzos. It is somewhat enjoyable. But I would pick THC over CBD any day for recreational use.

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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: Joshuasca]
    #17819798 - 02/17/13 02:57 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

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Thanks. Definitely helps. I'm interested to give it a try. THC is just too anxious for me, so I feel like balancing it out with some CBD would do the trick.




Like Aviator said a bit ago, just search for a high content CBD strain. There's quite a few out there. My personal favorite is one called "Harlequin." I believe it's a 2:1 CBD:THC ratio, 13-14% CBD and 5-6% THC (One of the highest CBD strains). There's also one that's a private strain held by one dispensary in Colorado I know of called R4 (in-house genetics) that is a 14:1 CBD:THC ratio, (14-15% CBD, 1-2% THC)

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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: The_Aviator]
    #17820010 - 02/17/13 03:41 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

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Well that's all very interesting, but, was anyone else waiting for them to start losing their clothes...in the best possible taste of course.



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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: slh980]
    #17820520 - 02/17/13 05:22 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

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Thanks. Definitely helps. I'm interested to give it a try. THC is just too anxious for me, so I feel like balancing it out with some CBD would do the trick.




Like Aviator said a bit ago, just search for a high content CBD strain. There's quite a few out there. My personal favorite is one called "Harlequin." I believe it's a 2:1 CBD:THC ratio, 13-14% CBD and 5-6% THC (One of the highest CBD strains). There's also one that's a private strain held by one dispensary in Colorado I know of called R4 (in-house genetics) that is a 14:1 CBD:THC ratio, (14-15% CBD, 1-2% THC)




Strains of cbd high content cannabis?  Wouldn't ditchweed work?  First time I have ever heard of people wanting to extract weed for CBD.  Usually its the opposite way around.


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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: lowbrow]
    #17820578 - 02/17/13 05:38 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

I was under the impression that "ditchweed" had both low CBD and THC contents. Like less than 2% CBD. I could be wrong though.


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Re: anyone know if this is legit [Re: The_Aviator]
    #17820681 - 02/17/13 05:58 PM (11 years, 14 days ago)

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I was under the impression that "ditchweed" had both low CBD and THC contents. Like less than 2% CBD. I could be wrong though.




yeahhh... ditchweed like... schwag? usually less than 5% cbd and thc combined..

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