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topdog82
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Synthetic Cannabinoids
#17807261 - 02/15/13 01:46 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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I figure that at least some people here have experimented a little bit with the legal THC-like research chemicals
I was wondering if you guys had anything interested to bring to the conversation?
Which ones had negative side effects? Which were better, which were worse?
I was looking for a research chemical that would get me the same marijuana high, expect last shorter. I am a busy student and that would be perfect. I am def gonna do some research on possible neurotoxicity etc.
Before you say it, don't post any of that stereotypical pothead stuff, "its not natural man!". I am not gonna bathe in this shit. I am going to experiment with it carefully
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Soluminia
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: topdog82]
#17807330 - 02/15/13 01:55 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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UR-144 sounds like something youd be interested in. Found it to be very marijuana like. I didnt experience any bad side effects that are worth noting.
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Badaboom
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: topdog82]
#17807362 - 02/15/13 02:00 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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While I was in Colorado around the pres election times this year, I came across a drug similar to Cannabis called 'Mamba'. It does smoke like synthetic greenery and has similar properties of K-2 or Ketamine. It doesn't seem to be on the same tolerance scale as Cannabis but runs lower in regional pricing.. and from what I understand was bought at a gas station off the shelf. It might be something to look into if you are curious about different substances. It hits like a brick wall and lasts all of 15 minutes with 2 hits. It took the conversation right out of me and I just ended up staring at the bed the entire time haha
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topdog82
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: Badaboom]
#17807462 - 02/15/13 02:13 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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Badaboom said: While I was in Colorado around the pres election times this year, I came across a drug similar to Cannabis called 'Mamba'. It does smoke like synthetic greenery and has similar properties of K-2 or Ketamine. It doesn't seem to be on the same tolerance scale as Cannabis but runs lower in regional pricing.. and from what I understand was bought at a gas station off the shelf. It might be something to look into if you are curious about different substances. It hits like a brick wall and lasts all of 15 minutes with 2 hits. It took the conversation right out of me and I just ended up staring at the bed the entire time haha
I was completely unaware that cannabis or cananbinoids had any relation to ketamine/NMDA receptors
That sounds sketch...
My new years resolution was "no neurotoxic drugs except alcohol". But, it made be worht a try
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: topdog82]
#17807820 - 02/15/13 03:02 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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topdog82 said:
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Badaboom said: While I was in Colorado around the pres election times this year, I came across a drug similar to Cannabis called 'Mamba'. It does smoke like synthetic greenery and has similar properties of K-2 or Ketamine. It doesn't seem to be on the same tolerance scale as Cannabis but runs lower in regional pricing.. and from what I understand was bought at a gas station off the shelf. It might be something to look into if you are curious about different substances. It hits like a brick wall and lasts all of 15 minutes with 2 hits. It took the conversation right out of me and I just ended up staring at the bed the entire time haha
I was completely unaware that cannabis or cananbinoids had any relation to ketamine/NMDA receptors
That sounds sketch...
My new years resolution was "no neurotoxic drugs except alcohol". But, it made be worht a try
I certainly don't have much experience with it, once was enough for me xD
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: Soluminia]
#17808146 - 02/15/13 03:51 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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Soluminia said: UR-144 sounds like something youd be interested in. Found it to be very marijuana like. I didnt experience any bad side effects that are worth noting.
I've been testing out UR-144 a few times recently. I found it to be similar, but not the same as MJ, def passes if you have no MJ around, but more synthetic feeling, and made me a bit sick if smoked too much, particularly with alcohol.
No other negative side-effects to note, at least so far as I have experienced, just that it lacks the whole effects spectrum of real MJ.
Looks like it's going to be banned in the UK over the next week or so? Anybody have more info on this?
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topdog82
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: igCorcaigh]
#17809239 - 02/15/13 06:32 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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igCorcaigh said:
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Soluminia said: UR-144 sounds like something youd be interested in. Found it to be very marijuana like. I didnt experience any bad side effects that are worth noting.
I've been testing out UR-144 a few times recently. I found it to be similar, but not the same as MJ, def passes if you have no MJ around, but more synthetic feeling, and made me a bit sick if smoked too much, particularly with alcohol.
No other negative side-effects to note, at least so far as I have experienced, just that it lacks the whole effects spectrum of real MJ.
Looks like it's going to be banned in the UK over the next week or so? Anybody have more info on this?
how was the duration?
Any advice on smoking blends?
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Apeman
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: topdog82]
#17809335 - 02/15/13 06:52 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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for your own health, STAY AWAY from any of these synthetic cannabinoids.
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starfire_xes
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: Soluminia]
#17809442 - 02/15/13 07:11 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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Soluminia said: UR-144 sounds like something youd be interested in. Found it to be very marijuana like. I didnt experience any bad side effects that are worth noting.
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Malcolm_Xtasy
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Me on synthetic cannabinoids
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: topdog82]
#17809957 - 02/15/13 08:42 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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topdog82 said: how was the duration? Any advice on smoking blends?
Oh the duration is much less than cannabis. That's one thing I do like about synths.
I can smoke UR-144, and do my thing for an hour, then it comes down.
But weed makes me feel monged out for the whole day, too long lasting.
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Apeman
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: igCorcaigh]
#17810875 - 02/15/13 11:27 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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i know that nobody wants opinions shoved down their throats, and im all for people making their own decisions...that being said, these synthetic blends are dangerous.nobody really knows what effects they have on the brain and body. i know this is an isolated incident, but just read it before tying the stuff. im only posting this because i care about my fellow shroomers well being. keep it natural folks!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/04/health/synthetic-marijuana-irpt
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: Apeman]
#17811585 - 02/16/13 03:29 AM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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Here is another report of a negative response to synthetic cannabinoids, specifically 5F-UR-144 also known as XLR-11. This person, and their spouse, both experienced some sort of epileptic episode from this cannabinoid. You can read their trip report here:
www.chemsrus.com/forum/19-harm-reduction/5675-5f-ur-144-aka-xlr-11-my-wife-had-a-seizure
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Edited by SeenSoFar (02/16/13 03:31 AM)
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: SeenSoFar]
#17811898 - 02/16/13 06:42 AM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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Some people say there all the same but there really not. I have tried well over 100 different brands of this so called fake weed or spice and its not like smoking pot at all. Some labels are not that bad they give you a close feeling to the real thing but then some others down right knock you worse then taking 20 hits of some really good acid. But they don't last as long. Most last 15 to 30 min on a couple tokes. The worst one I have tried and will never forget it was called 616 tropical blend. I took 2 hits and was in a comic book state for almost a hour. Everything had thick black outlines around it and I mean everything. It was a little scary to be honest but I knew it would go away, Well that is what I kept telling myself lol. These newer ones coming out are not the same as the ones that were around 2 or 3 years ago. There is a lot more side effects to them with the chemicals there using like, upset stomach, headaches, loss of apatite and the worse one of all mood swings of depression. I guess what I am saying here is that if you have not experimented with many drugs use extreme caution when using these. Not all of them are the same and you don't need to smoke it like it is pot like smoking a whole bowel or a joint. Really one or two hits is enough at first to see how the one you pick effects you. Some might not do anything to you, but some might be to much. Kind of like how some drugs are not for some people.
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topdog82
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I checked in at my local headshop and they said they were out of it, and that it was illegal
that was spice and k2
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trippinballs420
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Re: Synthetic Cannabinoids [Re: topdog82]
#17817115 - 02/17/13 03:58 AM (11 years, 15 days ago) |
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topdog82 said: I checked in at my local headshop and they said they were out of it, and that it was illegal
that was spice and k2
honestly its probably for your own good
a couple years ago i smoked a couple different kinds of spice when it was still legal in maryland, i have no idea what drug was in it but i thought it sucked compared to weed, it made me feel weird. not really a bad weird or a good weird but just odd, and off, i got stoned as fuck dont get me wrong but it just doesnt hold up to the real stuff to me
i have friends that swear by that shit but i dunno, the entire synthetic cannabanoid drugs seem sketchy from some of the stories ive heard
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topdog82
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trippinballs420 said:
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topdog82 said: I checked in at my local headshop and they said they were out of it, and that it was illegal
that was spice and k2
honestly its probably for your own good
a couple years ago i smoked a couple different kinds of spice when it was still legal in maryland, i have no idea what drug was in it but i thought it sucked compared to weed, it made me feel weird. not really a bad weird or a good weird but just odd, and off, i got stoned as fuck dont get me wrong but it just doesnt hold up to the real stuff to me
i have friends that swear by that shit but i dunno, the entire synthetic cannabanoid drugs seem sketchy from some of the stories ive heard
Im not even getting drug tested. I am just a very curious guy
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