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justcantstop
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Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots
#17794444 - 02/13/13 09:40 AM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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Hi All
I'm in Melbourne.....
I had an absolutely BRILLIANT patch last year which yeilded easily 300-400 mushrooms over a short time. Just as the season was basically ended a friend of mine was walking past and saw a fellow with a spray pack on his back spraying liquid onto the patch. My friend knew mushrooms grew there and asked him what he was doing, and he responded, "Mushrooms grow here so we're spraying them to get rid of them".
Further,also last year, I had another good spot. It was yielding heaps and one day about half way through the season it suddenly had new tambark all over it, but not on the other tambark areas that didn't have shrooms. It was that fresh bright new tambark you can tell has come straight from a nusery somewhere.
WHATS GOING ON? Is the government actually taking steps to stamp out mushies?? And further to this, will these techniques actually work? Or will the resiliant little buggers eventually push through again?
Anyone?
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koraks
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: justcantstop]
#17794532 - 02/13/13 09:59 AM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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How reliable is your friend when it comes to stories like these?
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justcantstop
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: koraks]
#17794548 - 02/13/13 10:03 AM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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Absolutely reliable. A good friend, hardcore acid/shroom fan, picks every season, etc. She wouldn't make it up.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: justcantstop]
#17794550 - 02/13/13 10:05 AM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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justcantstop said: My friend knew mushrooms grew there and asked him what he was doing, and he responded, "Mushrooms grow here so we're spraying them to get rid of them".
Your friend is a bullshitter.
There is no spray which will get rid of mushrooms in a field, and if it were, AU wouldn't allow it anyway. Besides, fungicides affect spores not live mycelium or mushrooms. If anyone had a backpack sprayer in a cow field he was most likely spraying herbicide to 'protect' the pasture grass from broad leaf weeds.
Patches often stop producing after a time, but a satellite patch or two will usually pop up nearby. RR
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Tmethyl
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: koraks]
#17794551 - 02/13/13 10:06 AM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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Environmentally speaking, using a fungicide is highly unlikely to be approved of. Its extremely expensive and very few fungicides even work on mushroom mycelium. Sounds like story to me.
I am an expert in fungicides my user name is actually a popular commercial fungicide. Its impractical and doesn't happen.
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justcantstop
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: Tmethyl]
#17794583 - 02/13/13 10:15 AM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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Hi Guys
I know it sounds like bullshit - however it wasn't pasture - the species is P. subaeruginosa (Melbourne) which usually grows in wood chips and bark matter (or also in pine needles)... anyway point being he was spraying underneath a large gum tree and the mushrooms were growing in the wood chips below it. Honestly, my freind has no reason to lie - and i don't know what other reason he would have been spraying there for....
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justcantstop
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: justcantstop]
#17794585 - 02/13/13 10:16 AM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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I really hope you are all right because it is an UNREAL patch!!
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: justcantstop]
#17794628 - 02/13/13 10:27 AM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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I believe your friend is just pulling your leg. My best friends are of course very trustworthy and reliable yet they love to pull my leg.
On the other hand, if he's telling the truth, I believe the mushroom in any case is the winner over fungicide on a larger scale.
The reason they put fresh mulch in the beds where your beloved subs have grown is, of course, because the subs had the mulch for dinner. Which again of course means new sub-strate.
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justcantstop
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: Anglerfish]
#17794677 - 02/13/13 10:37 AM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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So how long will the mycelium need to grow through the new layer of substrate?
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ambc
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: justcantstop]
#17794850 - 02/13/13 11:15 AM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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So how long will the mycelium need to grow through the new layer of substrate?
depends on the species, strain(s) and how aggressive the mycelium is. usually would loving psilocybes will come right back the next year. assuming it was still vigorous when it happened. Seems like sometimes they can even fruit right through it like a casing layer if they haven't had a chance to thoroughly colonize the new chips. Again a lot of it has to do with specifics but especially if they put the same kind of wood down then the patch should be fine.
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: ambc]
#17795721 - 02/13/13 02:54 PM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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If the guy really was spraying something under the gum tree it was most likely to prevent under growth from forming under the tree. Some form of herbicide most likely.
Either way I doubt it would affect the shrooms growing there.
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justcantstop
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: gandalf579]
#17796788 - 02/13/13 05:45 PM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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Well if you are all right and the patch will survive, this all makes me a very happy chappy. Cause this spot is the BOMB. All you subaeruginosa pickers in Melbourne (and I suppose elsewhere) would notice that some shrooms are kinda fat, have fatter stems and fatter caps, whilst others a thinner and more slim. I think maybe it depends on what they are growing in. Anyway this spot has the fattest biggest juiciest shrooms that really go bright blue when they bruise. Awesome. And they just kept growing and growing and growing, it was ridiculous!!
It has taken me 5 years of searching each season to finally have 3 or 4 good spots. The first 2 years i found NOTHING, it was so frustrating. But now i just seem to see them everywhere. They even grow beside a walkway where i work! haha
The funny part is i don't really dont enjoy tripping, i only like a mild trip. But I LOVE hunting and the thrill of the chase.
Cheers and happy hunting!
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: justcantstop]
#17796800 - 02/13/13 05:48 PM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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if u ass raped the patch, there might be nothing left... just a thought.
 peace and love bloodworm
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Tmethyl
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: bloodworm]
#17796809 - 02/13/13 05:50 PM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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bloodworm said: if u ass raped the patch, there might be nothing left... just a thought.
 peace and love bloodworm
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: bloodworm]
#17796944 - 02/13/13 06:13 PM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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bloodworm said: if u ass raped the patch, there might be nothing left... just a thought.
 peace and love bloodworm

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justcantstop
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: Lepkaun]
#17797031 - 02/13/13 06:28 PM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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Hey - I do actually take offense to that. I am VERY careful picking. I use scissors and never disturb the roots. I ALWAYS flick before I pick. I do NOT pick immature shrooms. I depend on that spot to keep looking after me, so I look after it
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: justcantstop]
#17797042 - 02/13/13 06:30 PM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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justcantstop said: Hey - I do actually take offense to that. I am VERY careful picking. I use scissors and never disturb the roots. I ALWAYS flick before I pick. I do NOT pick immature shrooms. I depend on that spot to keep looking after me, so I look after it 
good for you man.  flicking before picking does absolutely nothing though...
 peace and love bloodworm
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: bloodworm]
#17800040 - 02/14/13 09:40 AM (11 years, 10 days ago) |
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Unless there are spores on the caps.
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: suchen]
#17800178 - 02/14/13 10:11 AM (11 years, 10 days ago) |
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Come on guys, why you all being so rude for?
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Re: Fungicide being used in Melbourne Mushroom Spots [Re: Ran-D]
#17801421 - 02/14/13 02:41 PM (11 years, 10 days ago) |
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Ran-D said: Come on guys, why you all being so rude for?
Gotta agree with that. Maybe there was a bullshitter spraying the wood chips. It could have been a tactic to try to hog the patch. It could have been a paranoid schizophrenic who didn't agree with what the mushrooms had to say. Then again it could be tied in with the Kennedy assassinations and the moon landing and 9/11 conspiracies. Benefit of the doubt folks - original poster seems like a decent sort.
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