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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: LunarEclipse] 3
#17864358 - 02/25/13 04:23 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I share his interpretation. Is English not your first language?
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: LunarEclipse] 1
#17867293 - 02/26/13 02:09 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: In fairness, Bodhi's interpretation of your post is a reasonable one...one which I share.
"There is nothing wrong with sex or them yet daddy is doing time in prison because they reported it after 5 years" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for the father's imprisonment.
You share his misinterpretation of my hypothetical example? And that's your version of "fairness"? And what are you sharing? His personal attack of me for no reason?
It really that you could be so stupid.
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: budmanman] 1
#17867336 - 02/26/13 02:32 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Children are by nature innately sexual. I was very sexual as a child, and believe it is natural and normal to be curious and aroused looking at naked bodies. I honestly hate the fact that society is always trying to conjure up this false fantasy of children being pure, wholesome, and asexual. It simply isn't true; children have sex drives. I especially think it's dumb when fathers expect their TEENAGE daughters to be pure and virginal, and try to prohibit her from being sexually active or even dating.
With that said, I do not believe it is okay for an adult to have sex with a child. If children want to explore their sexuality with each other, then fine. But an adult should refrain themselves from being the instigator in child sexual relationships.
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: Crystal G]
#17867372 - 02/26/13 03:00 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: In fairness, Bodhi's interpretation of your post is a reasonable one...one which I share.
"There is nothing wrong with sex or them yet daddy is doing time in prison because they reported it after 5 years" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for the father's imprisonment.
You share his misinterpretation of my hypothetical example? And that's your version of "fairness"? And what are you sharing? His personal attack of me for no reason?
It really that you could be so stupid.
Come on now, be nice to our favorite copy/paster.
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: budmanman] 1
#17868838 - 02/26/13 12:32 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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budmanman,
I know this is a controversial topic with a lot of emotion underpinning it, but stick to the topic and stop calling people names.
The people in this thread are not the topic and a stupid person can make a valid point just as much as a genius can. That's why calling someone names doesn't support your argument. Rather it weakens it because you look like you can't come up with a rebuttal so you stoop to name calling instead.
It's also against the rules. If you want to argue by insult, take it to the OTD forum where insulting each other is how they debate there. If you want to debate here, then debate the topic only and leave the people out of it.
Consider this your warning.
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: Diploid]
#17871417 - 02/26/13 08:13 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am almost afraid to say it, but after reading some of this thread my opinion has for the most part has been swayed of complete rejection of expression of a child's sexuality aside from genital play and masturbation to allowing exceptions of it. I don't think it is our place to judge other cultures on the traditions they practice that may serve a function. I'm just going to say it, I no longer see a problem with the expression child sexuality regarding child on child sex or child on adult sex as long as it serves a function in the culture and does not cause developmental harm to the child. Should we accept pedophelia or the expression of sexuality of children in this culture? I don't think so. But why should we be so quick to judge other cultures for it?
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: Cactilove]
#17873049 - 02/27/13 02:22 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am going to a rave this Saturday. First rave ever. I will be on molly. At a rave. You see were I am going here?
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: budmanman]
#17873067 - 02/27/13 02:35 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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To a rave?
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#17873094 - 02/27/13 02:53 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea were there normally is jail bait lol.
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: budmanman]
#17873959 - 02/27/13 10:45 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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what does this have to do with the thread?
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: budmanman] 1
#17875173 - 02/27/13 02:30 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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budmanman said: I am going to a rave this Saturday. First rave ever. I will be on molly. At a rave. You see were I am going here?
Fascinating
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#17875267 - 02/27/13 02:43 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#17875304 - 02/27/13 02:51 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: Crystal G]
#17885357 - 03/01/13 09:42 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:I especially think it's dumb when fathers expect their TEENAGE daughters to be pure and virginal, and try to prohibit her from being sexually active or even dating.
just because someone is desiring of sex does not mean they are mature enough to fully understand and be ready for the possibility of pregnancy or a STD. with every act of sex there is the possibility of pregnancy or an STD.
teenagers are dumb, not father's who wish their teenage daughters would not be sexually active because; with every act of sex there is the possibility of pregnancy or an STD.
when i was a teen: i drove 100MPH down narrow dirt roads in the country at night. i hit mail boxes with a baseball bat from a moving car. i would drink 3/4th of a bottle of rum, plus beer, and drive 50 or more miles drunk as shit. i climbed a 100 foot cliff in a state park in sandals. these are only a few of the extremely stupid things i did as a teenager.
i wish nothing but bliss for my child. i hope one day when she is an adult she'll find someone, some people, or something, that bring her many orgasms and nothing but joy. but i hope she waits until she is at least 17-18 to lose her virginity, and is at least semi-mature and ready for the very real responsibility of a child of her own, or living with an STD because; with every act of sex there is the possibility of pregnancy or an STD.
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: broken]
#17886547 - 03/01/13 02:07 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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just because someone is desiring of sex does not mean they are mature enough to fully understand and be ready for the possibility of pregnancy or a STD. with every act of sex there is the possibility of pregnancy or an STD.
That's nothing but a load of crap. If there was actual sex education available for kids starting from first years of their lives and continuing through their adolescence, most everyone would be more than capable of understanding how to protect themselves, what each contraceptive does, etc. It's terribly schizophrenic and inaccurate to say that with every act of sex there's the possibility of pregnancy and STDs.
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teenagers are dumb, not father's who wish their teenage daughters would not be sexually active because; with every act of sex there is the possibility of pregnancy or an STD.
please provide evidence for your claims.
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i wish nothing but bliss for my child. i hope one day when she is an adult she'll find someone, some people, or something, that bring her many orgasms and nothing but joy. but i hope she waits until she is at least 17-18 to lose her virginity, and is at least semi-mature and ready for the very real responsibility of a child of her own, or living with an STD because; with every act of sex there is the possibility of pregnancy or an STD.
So basically your expectations are unrealistic because your child (which suddenly is a she, and, I need to ask, is it because you already have a daughter, or is it because you only have these stupid expectations in case your child will turn out to be a girl?) won't have only bliss, and she might want to try sex from the age of 16, 12, or even 10.
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is my point clear?
Clear and irrational.
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#17888724 - 03/01/13 08:42 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm just gonna leave this here:
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: broken]
#17890476 - 03/02/13 02:16 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I gather that you ran out of ideas? That was short and boring...
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#17890968 - 03/02/13 07:14 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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no. i just logged in about 5 minutes before i had to leave for work and thought a facepalm got my point across.
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MushroomTrip said: If there was actual sex education available for kids starting from first years of their lives and continuing through their adolescence, most everyone would be more than capable of understanding how to protect themselves, what each contraceptive does, etc. It's terribly schizophrenic and inaccurate to say that with every act of sex there's the possibility of pregnancy and STDs.
that is a huge if. i am taking about reality, you are speaking of hypothetical situations, maybe even hyperbole. and education in and of it's self does not make an individual more mature. just because someone is educated on a subject, doesn't make them mature enough for the reality of the situation of said subject. i had the knowledge how to drive a vehicle when i was 12, it didn't make me mature enough to do so in a responsible way.
do you know what schizophrenia is?
you do know that fluid exchange is all that is needed for pregnancy or transfer of STD right? if semen goes in vagina, both are possible, it doesn't matter how the semen got there. and some STD's can transfer from mother to child at birth, so it is possible for two virgins to have sex, and pass an STD.
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please provide evidence for your claims.
i did, in the post you quoted, you edited them out. 
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MushroomTrip said: So basically your expectations are unrealistic because your child (which suddenly is a she, and, I need to ask, is it because you already have a daughter, or is it because you only have these stupid expectations in case your child will turn out to be a girl?) won't have only bliss, and she might want to try sex from the age of 16, 12, or even 10.
i stated what i 'want' for my child, you mentioned my 'expectations'. wants and expectations are two completely different things. i never stated what i expect for my child, so how would you know what they are, or be able to judge if they are 'stupid'?
i wanted to fuck when i was 12, it doesn't mean it was a good idea for me to do so, and i was most certainly not mature enough for the possible ramifications.
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MushroomTrip said: Clear and irrational. 
you can disagree with me, it doesn't make you right and me wrong. most of what i stated in my first post are my opinion, not fact. saying my opinions is irrational is discrediting them, as if i shouldn't come to an opinion based off my own life experiences and those of people i know, i should just agree with what other people believe.
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: broken]
#17903599 - 03/04/13 03:51 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Why do we deny childrens innate sexuality? [Re: broken]
#17903627 - 03/04/13 03:56 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did you win?
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