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Offlinejimsuzo
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Is the US still fit to run the world?
    #1778901 - 08/04/03 06:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

  • PROS
    can-do attitude
    likes to party
    Sexy
    has the cash
    BIG in Japan
    still idealistic
    still has potential
    Still WILD

  • CONS
    rude
    obese
    self-involved
    gun fetish
    too damn aggressive
    keeps 2 million people in prison
    Can't find Iraq on a map

    adbusters


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: jimsuzo]
        #1778910 - 08/04/03 06:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    Quote:

    jimsuzo said:
  • PROS
    can-do attitude
    likes to party
    Sexy
    has the cash
    BIG in Japan
    still idealistic
    still has potential
    Still WILD

  • CONS
    rude
    obese
    self-involved
    gun fetish
    too damn aggressive
    keeps 2 million people in prison
    Can't find Iraq on a map

    adbusters   




  • hell...Many Americans can't even find their OWN country on a map...nevermind Iraq.  :wink:


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: jimsuzo]
        #1779013 - 08/04/03 07:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    "Is the US still fit to run the world?"

    hell no.. and what's this "still fit" stuff?


    by the way, adbusters kicks major ass :smile:

    I highly recommend the book Culture Jam, by Adbusters founder


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: jimsuzo]
        #1779176 - 08/04/03 08:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    I don't think anyone is fit to run the world.


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: Strumpling]
        #1779308 - 08/04/03 09:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    Adbusters kicks a LOT of ass.

    Another good read: No Logo - Naomi Klein


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: GernBlanston]
        #1779331 - 08/04/03 09:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    Adbusters is the shit!

    the american system will fail because it is based in coercion and good ol boy networks!


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: jimsuzo]
        #1779352 - 08/04/03 09:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    I don't think we should have to lead anyone. Who made us the boss and why do you feel the need to be lead?

    We're damned if we do and damned if we don't....it's easier to not give a damn.


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: jimsuzo]
        #1779695 - 08/04/03 11:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    The United States is possibly the best country
    that's ever existed. The Roman Empire and whatever
    else, wherever the Mayans lived and stuff might
    have been good but that was a long time ago and
    it would be really hard to compare them to a
    modern country, I think. I actually don't even
    think it's worth comparing them! America is
    obviously something other than what they were,
    something way better. No other country, modern
    or from a long time ago, can possibly compare.


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: bivalve]
        #1779707 - 08/04/03 11:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    but we're turning into zombie insects and ruining the planet for the other life-forms


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: DoctorJ]
        #1779716 - 08/04/03 11:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    Not to interrupt but, which system will not fail?

    I wanna join that one.

    And as to the original question: Is that rhetorical?


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: ]
        #1779783 - 08/04/03 11:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    The system that will not fail defies definition because it is too flexible to be defined.

    sorry to give a metaphysical answer to a political question :smile:


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: DoctorJ]
        #1779799 - 08/05/03 12:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    NP, that actually is a very good definition! :laugh:

    Kinda like the best conspiracy is the one that can't be detected.

    Ut oh, now you have me thinking again.


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    Offlinejimsuzo
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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: Innvertigo]
        #1779846 - 08/05/03 12:22 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    Quote:

    I don't think we should have to lead anyone.




    I agree with you 100%. I don't feel the need to lead anyone nor do i think the US should be the world's self-appointed cop.


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: ]
        #1779882 - 08/05/03 12:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    Quote:

    and as to the original question: Is that rhetorical?




    Yes, the original question was rhetorical. I guess the cynicism was once again a bit obscure. The question and subsequent list of pros/cons was initially published in Adbusters July/August edition. For those that aren't clued in to what Adbusters is - go to the URL in the initial post. Give it a good look. If you like what you see, get a subscription. If not, oh well.

    (BTW: I own no Adbusters stock (is there such a thing??) nor am i affiliated with the publication in any way).

    peace -




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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: bivalve]
        #1779922 - 08/05/03 12:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    Quote:

    The United States is possibly the best country that's ever existed.




    Hmmm.... that's debatable. I guess it depends on one's definition of 'best'. If you mean 'best' as in being the biggest, most warlike, having the baddest-ass army or kicking the most ass - yes America is the undisputed best. If 'best' means cleanest, most concerned about the environment, most aware of global issues, most honest, peaceful, or fair (the list goes on)- I think not.

    The original point wasn't to talk about who's really 'best' though. I simply wanted to bring forward for discussion a previously published list of qualities (or lack thereof) that make the US qualified to be the worlds policeman. Just food for thought.


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: Rono]
        #1779961 - 08/05/03 12:57 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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    hell...Many Americans can't even find their OWN country on a map...nevermind Iraq.




    I think its a common fallacy that the citizens of the U.S. have ever been well educated. There have always been a minority in power who are knowledgable, but I doubt the average person in the 1800's could find much on a map either...

    Not that it isnt incredibly sad that we cant do any better 200 years later...


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: jimsuzo]
        #1779988 - 08/05/03 01:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    Thanks. I was just making conversation. I knew full well it was rhetorical.

    And yes, Adbusters is pretty cool from what I've seen.

    Thanks.


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: ]
        #1780332 - 08/05/03 03:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    No America is not fit to run the world, it isnt even fit to run itself.


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    Re: Is the US still fit to run the world? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
        #1780338 - 08/05/03 03:13 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

    America is no more fit to run than Rome was fit to conquer the world (and possible run it afterwards) or even Hitler for that manner, the world exists for diversity, no one entity should be able to run a hell of lot.


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