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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: clam_dude]
    #18131929 - 04/18/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I'm sorry but I think you do have a learning disorder. (responding to your second last post)


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: Icelander]
    #18131935 - 04/18/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Icelander said:
According to the dictionary you only have to say that you don't "believe" there is a god.  Not that you know or are sure.




Different dictionaries say different things.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: teknix]
    #18131938 - 04/18/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Really, show me.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: clam_dude]
    #18131941 - 04/18/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

clam_dude said:
I'm sorry but I think you do have a learning disorder.




Rofl.

:ranchydance:

Sry ulose!


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: teknix]
    #18131946 - 04/18/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

ok i lose


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: Icelander]
    #18131945 - 04/18/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Really, show me.




You look it up. You didn't cite anything in the first place yet demand I do?


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: clam_dude]
    #18131950 - 04/18/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Teknix, I'm not going to respond to you anymore, because I'm pretty sure you just like to play games with words, with the goal of frustrating people.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: teknix]
    #18131954 - 04/18/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

teknix said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
Really, show me.




You look it up. You didn't cite anything in the first place yet demand I do?





I did and every one said the same thing. There is a "belief" there is no god.  And yes if I ask for evidence for a claim in this forum the claimant is supposed to provide it or they are considered fos.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: clam_dude]
    #18131960 - 04/18/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

clam_dude said:
ok i lose



It's ok, you can keep playing, you've lost like 6 times already.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: clam_dude]
    #18131970 - 04/18/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I'm an leprechaunist

wouldn't that mean you actually do believe in leprechauns?


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let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

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everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

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euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: teknix]
    #18131973 - 04/18/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

teknix said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
Really, show me.




You look it up. You didn't cite anything in the first place yet demand I do?





I did and every one said the same thing. There is a "belief" there is no god.  And yes if I ask for evidence for a claim in this forum the claimant is supposed to provide it or they are considered fos.





Quote:

teknix said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
According to the dictionary you only have to say that you don't "believe" there is a god.  Not that you know or are sure.




Different dictionaries say different things.





There is a "belief" there is no god.

or

You don't "believe" there is a god.

Inconsistencies.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: teknix]
    #18131985 - 04/18/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

:lol: Nice try. You can't provide a source for your definition of  atheist.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: Icelander]
    #18131998 - 04/18/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Those were your definitions.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: teknix]
    #18132013 - 04/18/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

All that is needed to be atheist is one believe there is no god. Believe is the operative word. There is no requirement that one be sure there is no god.  Or if there is then show me since you claim to know of it.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: Icelander]
    #18132017 - 04/18/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

BELIEVE being the keyword. The same as people that believe in god.

So an atheist is just spreading their beliefs based without evidence? How is that rational?


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: teknix]
    #18132030 - 04/18/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

That has nothing at all to do with your claim. :wink:  You're running away from this. :haha:


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: Icelander]
    #18132034 - 04/18/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Icelander said:
That has nothing at all to do with your claim. :wink:  You're running away with this. :haha:




I choose not to believe either way, that is my position.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: Icelander]
    #18132039 - 04/18/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Atheism is not rational at all..

I am currently agnostic FYI.

Atheism is basically saying 'I have heard all that science has to offer and it all makes logical sense so no I don't believe all that mumbo jumbo..'

That was very close to my old opinion..

Now I say if you have studied physics enough you would be left more bewildered and more open minded to the fact that there maybe a deity or entity involved.

At least with religion you have the tools to feel a better person and the constructs to a well built society.

Atheist's only real argument is there is no proof, There is also no proof your way is true.

Until we have a definitive answer I remain agnostic..

For those who don't know, Agnostic is basically saying I am an atheist who is open to the fact there are many things we do not understand and maybe never will so to rule anything out is ignorance.

Sorry if I offended anyone.. (It's very hard not to on a hot topic like this though tbh,)

I think a rule should be adopted by the atheists and agnostics a like,
A rule that states that no insult should be implied by our own beliefs as what anyone else believes is of no concern to me..

I actually admire religion as even when really brought down to scale the very least you can say is it teaches meditation and self-reflection.

Peace, :mushroom2:Phil.


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"Well Shulgin, you clearly haven't tried salvia 150X extract,
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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: PsilyPhily] * 1
    #18132048 - 04/18/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: teknix]
    #18132053 - 04/18/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

teknix said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
That has nothing at all to do with your claim. :wink:  You're running away with this. :haha:




I choose not to believe either way, that is my position.





That also has nothing to do with the claim you made about what an atheist is. :haha:


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