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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: Nillion] * 1
    #28617059 - 01/11/24 12:56 AM (17 days, 12 hours ago)

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I don't believe Atheism to be rational. I view it as type of theistic claim lacking evidence, just like many forms of theism. Like the relationship between matter and anti-matter or between molecular enantiomers, they are two aspects of the same thing.

I believe that some specific theistic claims are more rational than atheism, but they aren't biblical claims nor do they involve the supernatural.

But that is just my opinion.




I always thought that atheism wasn’t a claim to knowledge, it’s  just not believing in any gods.

You can be a gnostic atheist, which means you don’t believe in any gods and you make the claim that no gods exist (which I think is irrational), but you can also be an agnostic atheist, which means you don’t believe in any gods and you make no claim about the existence or non existence of any gods.

This is assuming you take the meaning of the word god as something like “a literal all knowing, all powerful being which created us and watches over us”.

If the definition of god is something like “the creation force of the universe” then I’d take something like a Hindu stance in asserting that everything, including us, is a part of god (god being the universe as a whole or something like that).

To me, being agnostic or gnostic is the real key as to whether a belief is irrational or not, as well as what you define god to be.


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: Nillion] * 2
    #28617658 - 01/11/24 01:49 PM (16 days, 23 hours ago)

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I view atheism as a claim that God does not exist, A- meaning without and Theism essentially meaning Divine Cause.

I addressed this in more detail earlier.




Regardless of what you think atheism is, it is up to what the individual believes the term to mean.

I call myself an agnostic atheist.

I don’t believe in any one particular god or religion, but I know enough to know that I could never rationally claim that god doesn’t exist.

What would you call me if I’m not an atheist to you?


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Re: Atheism is the only rational position [Re: Alyssa] * 1
    #28631495 - 01/22/24 08:50 PM (5 days, 16 hours ago)

It’s settled then :lol:


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