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How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop?
    #17759856 - 02/07/13 03:25 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

okay, so long story short a friend of mine ended up ahem... "finding" a laptop at the bar one night and gave it to me in exchange for some money he owed me. its not a great laptop, but far FAR better than the one I currently have. since I've got it though i've been too paranoid to connect it to the internet, I've completely wiped the hard drive, changed the static IP on the wireless card, and changed the Mac address.

I know that without having a laptop lowjack installed it is almost impossible to track a "lost" laptop, but I have heard one off stories about cops being able to track them down. should I actually be concerned about this or am I just being overly cautious/paranoid. Its been almost a month now, should it be safe to start using it and connecting to the internet? this is all assuming of course that the guy filed a police report and that they would even investigate it in the first place.

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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #17759946 - 02/07/13 04:15 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

What OS has it got currently installed ? And have you removed any serial numbers / barcodes on the outside specifically the windows key. Any of these could be used to identify the laptop IF found.

However i doubt they would still be looking for it after one month, enjoy your new laptop and if anyone ask's you got it given to you for Christmas :popcorn:

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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #17759958 - 02/07/13 04:22 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Great, now you're "that guy" and lying with dogs being with another thief.

Enjoy the laptop asshole.

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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #17759991 - 02/07/13 04:43 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

They're not looking for it, that's not how the police work. If they happen to catch someone for something else, and that person happens to have your laptop, and they happen to find it and happen to realize what it is, then you might get it back.

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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #17759999 - 02/07/13 04:49 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Imagine losing your laptop and all of the data on it just so some guy can have a slight upgrade to his laptop.  Pretty slimy, dude.

Chances are the cops won't find it.  Most likely, the victim will never see his laptop or his years of data either.  It's also likely that you'll lose something valuable to you and be angry about it.  Oh well...


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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #17760007 - 02/07/13 04:53 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Woah, I need to read better, I thought OP was the one who lost his laptop
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Give back the laptop OP, seriously.

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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #17760042 - 02/07/13 05:19 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop?




Hopefully, just hard enough to find you in possession of stolen property.


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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17760226 - 02/07/13 06:59 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, honestly I had felt kinda shitty about it for a while there, and for a couple weeks had thought about turning it in... on the other hand if someone is stupid enough to bring their laptop with them to a scuzzy strip club and then get so plastered they stumble out of there and leave it on the chair I think they deserve everything they get. (I had originally held on to it ostensibly so that if they called and asked about it I could return it but they never did)

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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #17760256 - 02/07/13 07:08 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

That's a bit inconsisted with your original post.  You said a friend sold it to you in exchange of some debt forgiveness.  Now you're saying that you held it in case someone called.  How would they know to call you? 

I'm guessing there isn't a "friend" at all.


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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Enlil]
    #17760288 - 02/07/13 07:20 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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That's a bit inconsisted with your original post.  You said a friend sold it to you in exchange of some debt forgiveness.  Now you're saying that you held it in case someone called.  How would they know to call you? 

I'm guessing there isn't a "friend" at all.




Its a friend that I work with, one of the strippers there. she found it after the guy left. it was a day I wasn't working so I don't actually know the exact details just what she told me. I kept it behind the counter at work for 2 weeks in case he came in for it before I took it home with me. only reason she gave it to me in the first place was because of the debt, normally the girls just take shit like that and sell it.

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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #17760324 - 02/07/13 07:32 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, honestly I had felt kinda shitty about it for a while there, and for a couple weeks had thought about turning it in... on the other hand if someone is stupid enough to bring their laptop with them to a scuzzy strip club and then get so plastered they stumble out of there and leave it on the chair I think they deserve everything they get. (I had originally held on to it ostensibly so that if they called and asked about it I could return it but they never did)




So if you forget something somewhere, you're OK with some scumbag wandering off with it?

Right.

I suspect we'd see a thread ranting about what assholes people are.

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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17760366 - 02/07/13 07:54 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, honestly I had felt kinda shitty about it for a while there, and for a couple weeks had thought about turning it in... on the other hand if someone is stupid enough to bring their laptop with them to a scuzzy strip club and then get so plastered they stumble out of there and leave it on the chair I think they deserve everything they get. (I had originally held on to it ostensibly so that if they called and asked about it I could return it but they never did)




So if you forget something somewhere, you're OK with some scumbag wandering off with it?

Right.

I suspect we'd see a thread ranting about what assholes people are.

You deserve whatever misery befalls you.




Honestly if I forgot something that important and expensive somewhere I would expect someone to have wandered off with it. it was my own damn fault for leaving something that valuable just lying out there in the open. and as I mentioned I left it there for two weeks in case the guy came in to claim it which he never did.

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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #17760441 - 02/07/13 08:26 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Because there was not a single file or email on that computer that would have allowed you to notify him.  Right?

Justify it any way you want. You have something that you know belongs to someone else.


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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #17760498 - 02/07/13 08:42 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Home burglaries have roughly a 16% clearance rate so I think stolen laptops would be much lower. It's much better for the pigs to bust 4 guys sitting in him BMW smoking a joint than to solve a crime because they have quotas for arrests and such to appear efficient and worthy of their budgets.


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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #17760599 - 02/07/13 09:08 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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they have quotas for arrests



That appears to be largely untrue:

"Of the 30 law enforcement agencies that responded to the author’s survey, 100 percent reported that they did not have quota systems and had no plans to implement quota systems"

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=234150

Unless you have some data that shows otherwise, it appears you're talking out of your ass.


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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Enlil]
    #17761042 - 02/07/13 10:43 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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they have quotas for arrests



That appears to be largely untrue:

"Of the 30 law enforcement agencies that responded to the author’s survey, 100 percent reported that they did not have quota systems and had no plans to implement quota systems"

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=234150

Unless you have some data that shows otherwise, it appears you're talking out of your ass.



The New York Times in their day old article about why police lie under oath. They won't admit it of course because quotas are illegal but every small town has them even if it's just for speeding tickets.


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HE pressure to boost arrest numbers is not limited to drug law enforcement. Even where no clear financial incentives exist, the “get tough” movement has warped police culture to such a degree that police chiefs and individual officers feel pressured to meet stop-and-frisk or arrest quotas in order to prove their “productivity.”

For the record, the New York City police commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, denies that his department has arrest quotas. Such denials are mandatory, given that quotas are illegal under state law. But as the Urban Justice Center’s Police Reform Organizing Project has documented, numerous officers have contradicted Mr. Kelly. In 2010, a New York City police officer named Adil Polanco told a local ABC News reporter that “our primary job is not to help anybody, our primary job is not to assist anybody, our primary job is to get those numbers and come back with them.” He continued: “At the end of the night you have to come back with something.  You have to write somebody, you have to arrest somebody, even if the crime is not committed, the number’s there. So our choice is to come up with the number.”

Exposing police lying is difficult largely because it is rare for the police to admit their own lies or to acknowledge the lies of other officers. This reluctance derives partly from the code of silence that governs police practice and from the ways in which the system of mass incarceration is structured to reward dishonesty. But it’s also because police officers are human.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/opinion/sunday/why-police-officers-lie-under-oath.html?smid=re-share&_r=1&




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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #17761055 - 02/07/13 10:45 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds pretty weak, but you'll believe anything as long as it is anti-government.


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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #17761095 - 02/07/13 10:52 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

For what it's worth, our local PD and surrounding areas hate state cops putting speed traps and checkpoints in their district because of their need to fill quotas.

Source - two local police officers, Chief of Police in next town over, sheriff's deputy.

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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Adden] * 1
    #17765943 - 02/08/13 03:21 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Before you connect to the internet, format the disk (entirely) preferably using gparted, and install a fresh copy of Windows or Linux. For Windows, just in case, use a different CD key or pirate it as the keys are unique.

At that point, the only two unique identifiable things left are the serial number and MAC address. On ipv4 (the internet you're using right now) only the first route can see it. That means that while technically you could be traced, the odds of that occurring are infinitesimal. That's not even taking into consideration how stupid cops are about stuff like that. On ipv6 it is transmitted, but since no one uses that yet because everyone is procrastinating you don't have to worry.

Only weak spot at that point really is the shady guy who gave you the thing rats you out, you better start plotting to off him first just in case.

And don't be an idiot, DO NOT TRY TO PAWN IT. Pawn shops will run the serial number to see if it's been reported.


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Re: How hard will cops really look for a stolen laptop? [Re: Adden]
    #17766359 - 02/08/13 08:10 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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For what it's worth, our local PD and surrounding areas hate state cops putting speed traps and checkpoints in their district because of their need to fill quotas.

Source - two local police officers, Chief of Police in next town over, sheriff's deputy.

Dys



That happens here a lot too. Like a memorial day they all want to work to earn triple overtime but they have to make back double their salary in tickets. They'll never admit it of course, but if you have any cops in your family they talk about it.


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