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    #17753120 - 02/05/13 11:09 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753127 - 02/05/13 11:10 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Get a lawyer, take that shit to court.


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #17753146 - 02/05/13 11:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I'm gonna use a norml one for my area, southern New Jersey. That's totally not legal right? At least they should've showed a warrant?

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753153 - 02/05/13 11:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

you got snitched

oh and if it a fed case that's not good....just saying lawyer up and get a lawyer who specifically defends against drug trafficking.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753160 - 02/05/13 11:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It doesnt sound legal at all, but they have "ways around" all that crap, i wish i was more knowledgeable in the subject, but if NORML can hook you up with a lawyer, they probably get you someone whose fairly well versed on this type of thing. Good luck man I hope everything works out for you. ^^Sounds like what he said, if a CI snitches on you they don't need much more to get you.


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753162 - 02/05/13 11:15 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

You are busted.  I think they are within the law.  These kinds of busts have stood up in court, so you have a problem here, IMVHO.


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #17753170 - 02/05/13 11:17 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Just to be sure.

UPS - United Parcel Service - no warrant required to search
USPS - United States Postal Service - warrant required

Which did you use? There's a thread on this somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #17753181 - 02/05/13 11:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Ahh, shucks. I used united postal service.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #17753188 - 02/05/13 11:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Here, its been awhile since I read it but I think I'm right about what I posted.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=46&Number=7724870&fpart=1&PHPSESSID=

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753196 - 02/05/13 11:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Did they issue any tickets or anything yet?


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #17753270 - 02/05/13 11:32 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I just got a date to appear in court after bail was paid. Thank you for thank link! Reading it as we speak.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753271 - 02/05/13 11:32 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Ahh, shucks. I used united postal service.


You dumb ass that makes it federal. the penalties are stiff when using the postal service. No warrant required PROBABLE CAUSE (IE they xrayed the package and determined there was something you should not mail).  The postal service is and is not a government agency they are completely self funded. That's why Reagan could fire the air traffic controllers and not the mailmen when they went on strike.


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #17753283 - 02/05/13 11:33 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

uh any mail is federal :shrug:

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753286 - 02/05/13 11:33 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Ahh, shucks. I used united postal service.



wait. which one? parcel or postal?

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #17753290 - 02/05/13 11:34 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I wonder if UPS opens spore packages also...those fucks


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: Dork]
    #17753292 - 02/05/13 11:35 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Parcel. Overnight. That's what I get for being impatient.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753299 - 02/05/13 11:36 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Put the boomers in a bean bag chair and stitch it back up :-)

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753301 - 02/05/13 11:36 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

shit. get a lawyer.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: Dork]
    #17753312 - 02/05/13 11:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah. Possesion of over 50 grams. Intent to distribute. Conspiracy to possess 5-25 lbs. and committed in a school zone. Lol. Fuck me right.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: tdubz]
    #17753319 - 02/05/13 11:39 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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uh any mail is federal :shrug:





No. UPS is a private company, as such they are directly responsible for any cargo they carry. As such they have the right to search any package they wish.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753321 - 02/05/13 11:39 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

if it's your first offense you'll probably get off pretty easy though

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana (moved) [Re: kg35590]
    #17753334 - 02/05/13 11:42 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Pub.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana (moved) [Re: kg35590]
    #17753337 - 02/05/13 11:43 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Good luck OP

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana (moved) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #17753347 - 02/05/13 11:44 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Second offense. My first was transporting 14 lbs in Cali but it was rules a misdemeanor with two years of unsupervised probation. Guess what. It hasn't been a year yet. Not sure how bad this is gonna bite me in my ass.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana (moved) [Re: kg35590]
    #17753355 - 02/05/13 11:46 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Did the current package have your name on it?

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: tdubz]
    #17753359 - 02/05/13 11:47 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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uh any mail is federal :shrug:


Uh yeah but UPS and Fedex will cooperate with authorities as well but less likely. Though look up operation northern lights. The feds shut down many hydroponics shops for selling grow lights and systems in the late 80s to early 90s. With the help of Fedex and UPS.


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #17753365 - 02/05/13 11:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

No. Fake name. No sig required. Completely anonymous.

Edited by kg35590 (02/05/13 11:53 PM)

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753387 - 02/05/13 11:54 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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No. Fake name. No sig required. Completely anonymous..




Deny everything. You have no idea where the package came from, or who sent it. You don't even know why someone would send you this. It must be someone that knows you got in trouble before trying to set you up. Nope! You would never order anything illegal. Drugs are bad mmmmmkay....

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #17753397 - 02/05/13 11:56 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

or flee the country

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #17753444 - 02/06/13 12:07 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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No. Fake name. No sig required. Completely anonymous..




Deny everything. You have no idea where the package came from, or who sent it. You don't even know why someone would send you this. It must be someone that knows you got in trouble before trying to set you up. Nope! You would never order anything illegal. Drugs are bad mmmmmkay....


Good point if OP did not open the package he could say it was miss addressed. But had better stick to the original story.


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #17753483 - 02/06/13 12:13 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

So. Regular mail is the way to go? 
  I buy spores sometimes yknow...for microscopy.


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #17753514 - 02/06/13 12:18 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Two day is so less scrutinized.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #17753523 - 02/06/13 12:20 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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So. Regular mail is the way to go? 
  I buy spores sometimes yknow...for microscopy.


No I get my spores next day fedexed when possible and spores are not Illegal weed is.


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #17753550 - 02/06/13 12:24 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I don't own a microscope!  It just seems like maybe UPS is some nosy fucks is all


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #17753591 - 02/06/13 12:31 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Spores aren't illegal though.

But if I was going to send something shady through the mail I would do this:

Use flat rate boxes, overnight, priority, express, etc....anything to expedite the box and keep it in the system for as short a period of time as possible.

Wipe everything down with a solvent that will evaporate away clean, so as not to leave any finger prints. Wear latex or nitrile gloves while packing.

Be sure to pack it securely so as not to leak or become suspicious in any way

When you take it down to have it shipped be sure to only touch the cardboard portions, not the tape. Colored duct tape works well as its obvious if the tape has been cut open.

Put your initials on both the sender and received, but not your name. Use a false PO box number from another town. If the PO asks, you are moving and sending the box to yourself. Your initials will match if for whatever reason you have to show ID (never happened so far).

Pay with cash! No credit or debit card.


One ghost package sent by a non-person. Sent to an address that may or may not have someone with those initials. And if the package shows up with signs of being opened, the receiver denies the package.

At least that's how I hear some people do it. I wouldn't know, I would never send anything shady through the mail.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #17753608 - 02/06/13 12:33 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't own a microscope!  It just seems like maybe UPS is some nosy fucks is all





Spores don't attract attention like a package full of stinky deliciousness.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753620 - 02/06/13 12:37 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

O shit ur in NJ?. Dam bro. Dirty cops, Dirty Judges, crazy harsh laws on drugs. Ive had cops dice roll nugs in my car just for the right to search it. Like legit they were still moving when he said..whats this!?


For real, get a lawyer. A good one, a scumbag one. It will be worth the money.


Not right and shit but dont count on them throwing out the case for it. u seemed to have gotten narced out. If ur man said nothing to start with after he got knocked you may have stood a shot but the girl who handed u that box had his permission. once they think you are getting drugs, they have the right to be in ur home. Ppl get ran up on round here because "a party was suppose to be going on in the house according to an anonymous call". Ur box was prob just flagged due to smell or being from a non-existent senders address or something. Good luck man.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #17753626 - 02/06/13 12:38 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

yeah but sending narcotics across state lines is still a federal offense any way you put it.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #17753644 - 02/06/13 12:44 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't own a microscope!  It just seems like maybe UPS is some nosy fucks is all





Spores don't attract attention like a package full of stinky deliciousness.




Hydroponics gear isn't illegal either if you catch the way I'm going with this


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: kg35590]
    #17753646 - 02/06/13 12:44 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't sound good. You were on probation, and you were in New Jersey which apparently has some fucked up laws for the amounts you were charged with.
http://norml.org/laws/item/new-jersey-penalties-2?category_id=874
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Possesion of over 50 grams. Intent to distribute. Conspiracy to possess 5-25 lbs



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Possession
More than 50g      felony      1.5 years        $ 25,000

Within 1000 feet of a school adds 100 hours of community service, as well as an additional fine.

Distribution
5 - 25 lbs          felony      5* - 10 years    $ 150,000

Sale within 1,000 feet of school property or a school bus is a felony which is punishable by a sentence of 3-5 years imprisonment and a maximum fine of $150,000.

Sale or distribution of more than 1 oz. within 500 feet of certain public property is a felony punishable by 5-10 years imprisonment and a maximum fine of $150,000.




You might get really proper fucked. I'm so sorry.

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana (moved) [Re: kg35590]
    #17753694 - 02/06/13 12:55 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Second offense. My first was transporting 14 lbs in Cali but it was ruled a misdemeanor





u could always snitch again?

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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #17753702 - 02/06/13 12:59 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't own a microscope!  It just seems like maybe UPS is some nosy fucks is all





Spores don't attract attention like a package full of stinky deliciousness.




Hydroponics gear isn't illegal either if you catch the way I'm going with this


Yeah but they did it at the time hydro was still in its infancy. I may have misquoted the name of the operation but it was written of in High Times when it was going down. And they are still at it. http://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=6183


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Re: Advice needed: UPS got me mailing Marijuana [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #17754755 - 02/06/13 09:35 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Didn't snitch the first time. A $6000 lawyer and $7500 in fines were all that were needed.

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    #17754795 - 02/06/13 09:50 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Didn't snitch the first time. A $6000 lawyer and $7500 in fines were all that were needed.



Thank god you were able to afford justice, maybe you can again.  Fuck prohibition and Fuck the how much can you pay for justice system.  Fuck em all

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    #17755454 - 02/06/13 12:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed. Its heavily loaded with a bitter irony.


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    #17758479 - 02/06/13 08:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

money buys you freedom...that is our justice. :gombypls:

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    #17767183 - 02/08/13 12:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I got much love for OP but amateurs like you get busted every day in over their head like that. Do something else man, you and your tattle tale friend ain't cut out for it.


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