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MagicalOrangutan
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mescaline vs mdma/mda?
#17747742 - 02/05/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mescaline and mdma have been compared in their effects, and in my limited experience with cactus, I mainly feel greatly empathetic and honestly, sexual, with a sexual feeling speedy body buzz.
So if I were to try mdma would it offer me anything that mescaline couldn't? Or is mescaline more accurately compared to mda or 2cx or dom or something?
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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I have had a few low-dose experiences with mescaline, and one moderate dose. I've rolled on dizzle hard around 3 times, and have had low-medium doses many times.
How could I explain dizzle compared to mescaline... Imagine a moderate dose of mescaline, and then enough amphetamine to completely overpower it. Now, take that whole experience and reduce it by a magnitude of 2 or 3.
What I'm trying to say is the speedy effects of MDMA almost completely overpower the psychedelic nature of it. They both, in my experience, create the same empathic feelings however. The feeling of the world being good, right, amazing, beautiful and wonderful. MDMA for me has absolutely minimal visuals.
Mescaline however, still produces a feeling of heaps of energy. It's kind of like sitting in a seat, and some force trying to pull the front of your body out of the seat, and to get up and move. The energy I attain from taking MDMA is not exactly the same.
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Re: mescaline vs mdma/mda? [Re: thud thud]
#17747794 - 02/05/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Interesting, thud. Are you sure the mdma you took wasn't cut with amphetamine or something similar?
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Oh yeah. It probably would have been. But then again I've done it several times, and the chance would therefore propertionally increase that the MDMA would have been unadultered on at least one occasion (especially with caps rather than pills).
Come to mention it, those pills did feel a bit different to what I'm used to... And in my experience, the browner colouration in MDMA indicates that it's less/not adultered (yet obviously not pure, or it would be white).
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Re: mescaline vs mdma/mda? [Re: thud thud]
#17747956 - 02/05/13 04:45 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nana Nana!
Ectsacydata.org
most machine compressed pills have no mdma at all, al least in florida
this has about twenty-six pages of tested pills, capsules and crystals.
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thud thud
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Eh. I use pillreport and I live in Australia. I look up all the pills I take before injestion and they confirm, both by first hand experience and reagent tests, that the pills I take do in fact contain MDMA.
As I said I'm familiar with taking crystal MDMA in capsules. I know what to look for.
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Re: mescaline vs mdma/mda? [Re: thud thud]
#17748043 - 02/05/13 05:42 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I really disagree about the speediness of MDMA. If I am rolling on a very pure form of molly I am in no way feeling speedy. I feel grounded big time.
I've never tried mescaline but I would rather try it than do MDMA. Mushrooms have given me effects that I enjoyed from molly and so much more. On special occasion molly can be for an incredible night but I think one should take it lightly.
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Re: mescaline vs mdma/mda? [Re: thud thud]
#17748045 - 02/05/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wasnt saying you didnt, but hey, it worth it to pass it along, why wouldnt I?
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I've never tried mescaline but I also disagree about the speediness of pure MDMA.
Pure dexamphetamine will have me feeling good, focused and almost hyper-sober. I will also have huge amounts of energy/motivation and on larger doses NEED to be moving around. A larger dose of MDMA makes focus extremely difficult, scrambles my short term memory and makes holding a coherent/sober conversation a bit more difficult. It also makes me feel superbly content and has a flooring effect. That is I'd rather just sit down and chat/make friends/smile than dance around and verbally eat people's faces off. Speed does the latter (for me anyway).
Some quite opposing effects there imo.
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Re: mescaline vs mdma/mda? [Re: birdland]
#17748112 - 02/05/13 06:28 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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birdland said: It also makes me feel superbly content and has a flooring effect. /quote]
Floored= what i meant by saying grounded.
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So no ones done both real pure mdma and mescaline/cactus?
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Eternal.A.K.Being said: Nana Nana!
What's this from?
I've prolly had higher doses of mdma or something(it was caps though so more likely actually mdma?) but I haven't been able to really sit down and see what the effects are like from mdma, I've always been raging and shiz. Idk I get euphoric/happy with both, maybe a bit more straight body euphoria with cactus(edit: now I'm remembering the body euphoria from mdma, it's good too, the bass was awesome ofc(would be on mescaline too no doubt), and at some points the highs(as opposed to the bass) were really loud and did that thing where you can kinda feel it in your ear, like in a bad way/that's too loud way but it just felt good on mdma loool). I get energy though I don't have to be running around on cactus, I can def just chill. The times on mdma I went and danced and all but I probably could have chilled as well. I haven't gone that high with cactus either though. And cactus is def visual where I didn't really notice much with mdma but I prolly wasn't looking for it either. Um, yeah I guess that's all I got haha
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Re: mescaline vs mdma/mda? [Re: Hiro]
#17749816 - 02/05/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hiro said:
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Eternal.A.K.Being said: Nana Nana!
What's this from?
I've prolly had higher doses of mdma or something(it was caps though so more likely actually mdma?) but I haven't been able to really sit down and see what the effects are like from mdma, I've always been raging and shiz. Idk I get euphoric/happy with both, maybe a bit more straight body euphoria with cactus(edit: now I'm remembering the body euphoria from mdma, it's good too, the bass was awesome ofc(would be on mescaline too no doubt), and at some points the highs(as opposed to the bass) were really loud and did that thing where you can kinda feel it in your ear, like in a bad way/that's too loud way but it just felt good on mdma loool). I get energy though I don't have to be running around on cactus, I can def just chill. The times on mdma I went and danced and all but I probably could have chilled as well. I haven't gone that high with cactus either though. And cactus is def visual where I didn't really notice much with mdma but I prolly wasn't looking for it either. Um, yeah I guess that's all I got haha
I thought people would like that site alot, my servers hook me up with free mollies even If I only get one because of that website.
makem say ahhhhhhhhhhhhh  nana nana !!!!!
Havent done mescaline, but have done dmt in ayahuasca, have done dmt extraction with red flower var. of illinois bundleflower, have done prickly poppy, in nice doses ( more than 25 flowers is better than mdma and is full of meth and methoxy compounds that are orally active dont smoke it , make a Small cup of tea , steep for five hours. have had lsa in high doses of hbwr, ( first hallucinogen I had was dmt, first official trip was with some form of lsd, was not the same at all as legal r.cs now, much more uncomfortability regarding breathing on 25i and 25x .)
I experimented with 4-ho mipt as of recently but only took 5mg to test the waters so to speak, in moderation is a good way to go about, I heard 50mg of psilocin is not as strong as 20mg of miprocin before buying, I live in Florida and buybestrc.com that does not show prices in usd got the chemical to my house in eleven days in a discreet envelope.
I know its a bit off topic but Hey, So What?, Right? I contributed information regarding the topic and a place with hundreds of tested capsules and pills. along with a natural plant that has meth compounds witch result in a similar trip
after all mdma is methyldioxylmethamphetamine, I havent heard the full name in some time, it might not be fully accurate.
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Eternal.A.K.Being said: nana nana !!!!!
I hope I'm not missing something(actually on a light dose of cactus right now), but I was actually asking about the nana nana thing, haha.
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Re: mescaline vs mdma/mda? [Re: Hiro]
#17750144 - 02/05/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I did say the full phrase in detail because I thought you might have heard it
its master ps song, " makem say nana nana" I think lmao, its been a while since I heard that song, its wasnt good though, its kindof like a phrase for : " oh shit!, thats awesome." or a phrase for when you
but nana nana was only the : thats awesome, part, but I meant check this site out if you want to see what your taking thats just potentially caffiene and certain simple stimulants if purity is an issue
even tested ketamine crystals in a bag and tell you what it was sold for and what it was sold as.
I apologize for not giving a clearer description of : Nana Nana! and what it meant, Then again, I didnt think someone would make it the focus of conversation but it was funny and i did get a good joyful laugh out of just explaining it

anyways they also found meth compounds in wild lettuce opium
Lactucopicrin and lactucin
Preferred IUPAC name lactucopicrin
(4-Hydroxy-6-methyl-3-methylidene-2,7-dioxo- 4,5,9a,9b-tetrahydro-3aH-azuleno[8,7-b]furan- 9-yl)methyl 2-(4-hydroxyphenyl)acetate
Lactucin
3aR,4R,9aS,9bR)-4-Hydroxy-9-(hydroxymethyl)-6-methyl-3-methylene-4,5,9a,9b-tetrahydro-3aH-azuleno[5,4-d]furan-2,7-dione
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Mescaline > MDMA
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Hiro

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Eternal.A.K.Being said:...
Ahhhhhh, haha, thanks, yeah sorry it was a bit off topic. I was wandering because just recently I went to a show with a bunch of people(some f'ed shiz happened, we ended up taking a 2c-x instead of mdma and tripping in their apartment which although f'ed ended up being a pretty cool time lol) but this one guy kept saying nana nana(I don't know if the way he said it is how you would say it, I guess I could check out the song) after a phrase or something and it was perty hilarious and that was the first time I remember hearing it and then earlier when you said it is the only other time so I was just wondering lol yeah so anyywaaayyyyyy
I turned up the music and bass obvs really loud and hit weed for the first time since taking my lowish dose of cactus today, during the peak, and raged to some music, it was just like pure awe and awesomeness, very like my experiences on mdma(plus weed which I have done everytime) and even the acid+mdma(+weed) experience, I could/am going to use this for shows/festivals methinks, maybe with a little somethin' for some added stimulation, or maybe I should try a higher dose of cactus before I decide on that. We'll see.
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MagicalOrangutan said: So no ones done both real pure mdma and mescaline/cactus?

Yes. Right here. I am positive I have experienced both pure MDMA and mescaline. If MDMA glued you to the couch it wouldn't be so popular in the dance/race scene.
What I haven't tried is unadultered speed, so maybe my use of language is misleading.
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