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Phred
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US out of California!
#1772300 - 08/02/03 07:11 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110003829
California is a desert land roughly the size of Iraq. It is also an object lesson in the dangers of trying to impose democracy in a culture that is not ready for it. California "is degenerating into a banana republic," writes former Enron adviser Paul Krugman in his New York Times column. Leon Panetta, himself a Californian, writes in the Los Angeles Times that California is undergoing a "breakdown in [the] trust that is essential to governing in a democracy." Newsday quotes Bob Mulholland, another California political activist, as warning of "a coup attempt by the Taliban element." Others say a move is under way to "hijack" California's government.
What isn't widely known is that the U.S. has a large military presence in California. And our troops are coming under attack from angry locals. "Two off-duty Marines were stabbed, one critically, when they and two companions were attacked by more than a dozen alleged gang members early Thursday," KSND-TV reports from San Diego, a city in California's south.
How many young American men and women will have to make the ultimate sacrifice before we realize it isn't worth it? Is the Bush administration too proud to ask the U.N. for help in pacifying California? Plainly California has turned into a quagmire, and the sooner we bring our troops back home, the better.
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The article itself has embedded links to the source of the quotes, if you want to check them out. I don't know how to import active links, sorry.
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silversoul7
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Re: US out of California! [Re: Phred]
#1772621 - 08/02/03 11:01 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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-------------------- "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire
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luvdemshrooms
Two inch dick..but it spins!?
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Re: US out of California! [Re: Phred]
#1772756 - 08/02/03 12:39 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: US out of California! [Re: Phred]
#1773914 - 08/02/03 08:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Left Coast Quagmire
California is a desert land roughly the size of Iraq. It is also an object lesson in the dangers of trying to impose democracy in a culture that is not ready for it. California "is degenerating into a banana republic," writes former Enron adviser Paul Krugman in his New York Times column. Leon Panetta, himself a Californian, writes in the Los Angeles Times that California is undergoing a "breakdown in [the] trust that is essential to governing in a democracy." Newsday quotes Bob Mulholland, another California political activist, as warning of "a coup attempt by the Taliban element." Others say a move is under way to "hijack" California's government.
What isn't widely known is that the U.S. has a large military presence in California. And our troops are coming under attack from angry locals. "Two off-duty Marines were stabbed, one critically, when they and two companions were attacked by more than a dozen alleged gang members early Thursday," KSND-TV reports from San Diego, a city in California's south.
How many young American men and women will have to make the ultimate sacrifice before we realize it isn't worth it? Is the Bush administration too proud to ask the U.N. for help in pacifying California? Plainly California has turned into a quagmire, and the sooner we bring our troops back home, the better.
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Select and drag into Front Page then copy and past code works.
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-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
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Innvertigo
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Re: US out of California! [Re: Phred]
#1774126 - 08/02/03 09:36 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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That was pretty funny....
-------------------- America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
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wingnutx
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Re: US out of California! [Re: Innvertigo]
#1774593 - 08/03/03 12:24 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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James Taranto is a funny guy. I get "Best of the Web" in my email every day.
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silversoul7
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Re: US out of California! [Re: Phred]
#1774600 - 08/03/03 12:27 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didn't really find it that funny(maybe because I'm from California), but I would like to see the federal government stop interfering with our Medical Marijuana laws.
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wingnutx
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Re: US out of California! [Re: silversoul7]
#1774613 - 08/03/03 12:33 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
I would like to see the federal government stop interfering with our Medical Marijuana laws.
Congratulations. You are in agreement with Wall Street Journal and National Review editorial policy
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angryshroom
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Re: US out of California! [Re: Phred]
#1774718 - 08/03/03 01:28 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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California kicks ass.
For some reason the military bases usually fall right on the best surf spots. We aren't allowed to surf these areas unless we have clearence. Pisses me off.
They were trying to build a base right on trestles, a world-class surf spot a few years ago. Luckily the surfrider foundation stopped it, along with some other groups.
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infidelGOD
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Re: US out of California! [Re: angryshroom]
#1774935 - 08/03/03 04:53 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol. the surfrider foundation taking on the military? only in California that article aint funny and it's way off base. a huge portion of the military-industrial complex is actually based in California... like skunkworks out in the desert. but yeah, this situation with the recall election is gettin pretty ridiculous. the governor should have resigned six months ago and spared us all this crap.
and btw, the feds shouldn't fuck with our state medical marijuana laws. the people of California have decided by a wide margin to allow medical use in a referendum several years ago. respect the will of the people please.
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daba
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Re: US out of California! [Re: angryshroom]
#1774937 - 08/03/03 04:55 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
angryshroom said: California kicks ass.
Agreed.
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Madtowntripper
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Re: US out of California! [Re: Phred]
#1775280 - 08/03/03 11:16 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very
-------------------- After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Re: US out of California! [Re: Phred]
#1775305 - 08/03/03 11:29 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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We all have our own opinion of California.
Nevertheless I found the article hysterical.
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Meat_Log_Smurf
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Re: US out of California! [Re: silversoul7]
#1777266 - 08/04/03 12:56 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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why? has your glaucoma gotten worse?
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silversoul7
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Ya. I'm starting to look like the guy in your avatar.
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