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Invisibleloppo
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms * 1
    #17735 - 05/20/00 02:19 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry to hear about your arrest, however I find it HIGHLY unlikely that the government was tracking your web browsing, or they are getting records from JLF. Maybe a landlord saw your trash? Just a possibility...anyway hope it all turns out for the best. Good luck.


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Anonymous

Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17737 - 05/20/00 02:26 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

There is a strong misconception on what and what not the 'government' can do, one thing they cannot do is 'track down where you visit', they would have to go to your home and install some sort of software that everytime you visited a 'inappropriate site' it would contact them and give them logs, so... in order for some shit like that to happen, it would first most-likey be illegal, and hard to do... so.. my guess is you did something really stupid, or bragged about growing shrooms, and someone ratted on yer ass, or they saw some shit in yer trash can, but vermiculite isn't probable cause to get a warrant.. a tip is though...

HOW TO PREVENT IT IN THE FUTURE:
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DONT TELL PEOPLE YOU ARE GROWING THEM
DONT LEAVE 'OBVIOUS' GROWING MATERIAL IN THE TRASH
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later.

[This message has been edited by tekniq (edited May 20, 2000).]



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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo] * 1
    #17738 - 05/20/00 02:32 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Your landlord could be snooping around in your mail. Alot of loser landlords seem to do this if they don't particularly like you.


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OfflineDinoMyc
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo] * 1
    #17739 - 05/20/00 03:04 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

heh.. unfortunately tracking people online is UNBELIEVEABLY easy... i have done it.. to people on the network im on, and to others online.. if you are at a major node, you CAN track ALL the info coming through.. you just set a flag for a particular IP or mac address.. and you can see it all.. so long as its going through where you are.. but since the gov. has access to the major piplines, its not unlikly that they monitor everything..
keep the MAN outta our lives? he is here, and has been for a long time, just waiting till were all weak..


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Anonymous

Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17740 - 05/20/00 03:24 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

WOw, that really fucking sucks. I bet your parents were pissed as hell. This kind of thing makes me paranoid. I'm glad you shared your story I will be careful as hell.


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Anonymous

Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17741 - 05/20/00 03:52 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Uhm.... Yeah you 'CAN' do it, but it takes knowledge in networking and tcp/ip, and... why the fuck would they hire some dood to 'spy' on this guy just to see if he was growing shrooms. -- makes no sense. so.. my conclusion is he told someone. or someone saw him. - the end -


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17742 - 05/20/00 04:06 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I'd like to know what police agency busted him.
The anonymous tip nonsense is a really scary facet of drug war legislation. Informants can get up to %25 of seized assets.
That is scary as shit.
As to tracking, anyone on a lan or cable modem is completely vulnerable to packet sniffers.
God, I must be more careful.
I'm pretty sure mere web surfing isn't probable cause.
I wonder if they seized his computer?
anyone else have "gettin busted" stories to share?


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Anonymous

Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17743 - 05/20/00 04:12 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I use a regular old External modem.,and i run Windows 98 with patches or my secure Linux box to access this shit.. also... another tip... IF YOU WANT TO BE SURE you dont get busted, you should use proxy's on any web boards that reveal your true IP addy.

be safe, don't act like there aren't fucking feds coming in here, i see people all the time posting things that they've only posted like 1 post.. begging for someone to send them spores or some shit like that... i dont trust those people.

i dont trust a lot of people...

be careful.



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Anonymous

Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17744 - 05/20/00 04:25 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I guarantee you your landlord came in to change your a/c filter and saw your setup, they dont need to give you written notice to enter for scheduled maintenance. the same thing happened to my brother, except he had 4 marijuana plants. landlords are 9 out of 10 times assholes.


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Anonymous

Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17745 - 05/20/00 04:46 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I agree... a land lords needs no permition to go into the house. He probly saw this and called the cops. Why would he want this in his place of work?... think of some of the people it might atract.. ext. as to the trash.;... unless some one tipped them first thats a crime for them to search it. IM like 99.9 percent sure it was the land lord... either that or your full of shit on all of this ;*)

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Anonymous

Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17746 - 05/20/00 08:05 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

In the immortal words of that black dude from Repo Man - "I call buulllshiit on that."

Could this post by the Botanically Bliss'd One be simple propaganda of the Drug War? Sounds like something the Partnership for a Drug Free America do...

Lets get free!



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Anonymous

Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17747 - 05/20/00 08:13 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

actually they can definitely search your trash with no warrant or probably cause :frown:


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17748 - 05/20/00 08:24 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

n1mr0d : That is bull shit... They still need a search warrent. what ever they find with out one.. = big law suit by "MY" ass. So fuck that.. they better get a better way to get a grow then some bunk shit like that...


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17749 - 05/20/00 08:26 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

i know this guy who doesn't go on any drug sites, underage porn sites (not that he would), or warez sites all because he told me that everything on the internet is monitored - and that's true. He said go to your local library and then you can look up shit on the net. And don't go around telling people about it - that's extra baggage and lame. And definantly dont discuss how you grew shrooms or offer to mail someone a syringe. Be smart.


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Offlineyounger now
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17750 - 05/20/00 09:47 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Actually, I believe once you put your trash out, it becomes 'public property' so I don't believe they need a warrant.

Good thing I don't grow shrooms. That would suck.



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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17751 - 05/20/00 10:34 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

BROTHER MY HEART REALLY GOES OUT TO YOU, YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER PRISONER IN THS SENCELESS WAR, JUST TRY TO FIND GOD, IS WHAT GOT ME THROUGH MY BIT BUDDAHISM IS GOOD TO be strong like the mushroom has taught for if we do not care it will not matter. and let your loved ones know thats the only way youll make it through this but in all honestly once you let go of the good ol' days jail aint that bad, RULE 1: BE COOL WITH THE TRUSTIES RULE :2 BE COOL WITH THE GAURDS YES SIR NO SIR....ETC.... WORK AS AN INFORMANT FOR THE INMATES ONCE YOU GET IN GOOD WITH THE GAURDS THEY WILL TELL YOU WHEN SHITS ABOUT TO GO DOWN AND THE INMATES APPRECIATE A TIPSTER JUST BE REEAALLLL COOL ABOUT IT, ACT LIKE YOU DONT LIKE ANY OF THE INMATES TO THE GAURDS SO THEYLL TELL YOU SHIT THEN YOU CAN GET BROWNIE POINTS BY TELLING THE INMATES WHAT THE GAURDS SAY, TRUST ME IT WORKED FOR ME FOR ALONG LONNNNG TIME d;-)


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Anonymous

Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17752 - 05/21/00 04:16 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I know someone who works in an office adjoining a courtroom. He gets to listen in on court cases. He told me that there were five shroom "labs" in his town that had gotten busted, and every single one had ordered from a web company. No matter what people say about keeping records of your order, any package can be tracked, esp if you're the DEA. Be careful.


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17753 - 05/21/00 04:54 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

well, at least now we know that spore syringes can actually be used to grow mushrooms, and some of the hypothetical things we discuss could actually be carried out if we were in Amsterdam or something.


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InvisibleAnubisRonin
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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17754 - 05/21/00 09:19 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Peace Bro...... I have some questions. According To Sacred Mushrooms and the Law it says that the maximum state penalty in Delaware for Sale and or Manufacturing Of Psilocyban Containing Mushrooms is 0-5 years in Jail with a 10k fine. You say you only had 7 grams of wet shrooms and some cakes?? I dont understand why you would face 10-15 years in prison? Also how can it be possible that you didnt tell anyone and yet the police got a search warrant based on probable cause??? If your story is legit then I would definately have the search warrant deal looked at in court cause thats fucking bullshit! also what exactly are growing supplies in the trash??? A syringe and vermiculite?? How is that probable cause??? Your story sounds a little fishy and if your telling the truth then I suggest you get a good lawayer cause they fucked you and didnt even use a condom bro! There are shitloads of people posting pictures of their mushroom crops everyday here and there are little to no busts that I know of regarding those people. Then you come out of no where with this post which is your first post ever and claim you told no one and you dont even post on the shroomery and this is your first attempt ever in growing shrooms and BANG the cops bust down your door and take you away?? Either you have some VERY bad luck or your story is a bunch of horse crap. Im getting REAL fucking tired of the good old US of A telling me what I can and cant do in the privacy of my own home when I am hurting NOBODY!! I cant believe that in some states you will get a longer prison sentence for growing mushrooms than you would if you murdered someone... What is that all about??? Im lucky that at this time I dont have to be concerned with trouble with mushrooms but it makes me so mad that if I wanted to experiment with mushrooms growing in USA that I face heavy duty jail time... FUCKING SUCKS!! Its time for a change!


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17755 - 05/21/00 10:50 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

could you give us a link to the newpaper that would've covered it, or at least tell us what paper it would be?

Link

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo] * 1
    #17756 - 05/21/00 11:35 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I'm calling SHANANNAGANS on this shit. You could not get that fucked up on 7 WET grams, I mean good god man, thats like 1 gram dry, maybe less. That's equivilant to having 1 gram of weed.....simple posession with the intent to get FUCKED UP maybe, but definatlly no fuckin 7 years. I think your just a dumb ass that made up a new name and posted this to see all the responses you get. But it would definatlly suck a fat ASIAN cock to experence this. I agree with LINK, lets see some evidence.


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17757 - 05/22/00 04:17 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

If there is one thing Ive learned its that the government will fuck you anyway they can. I doubt they are factoring in the water loss that will occur in drying, the fact o fthe matter is they want to nail for as much as they can. Like with acid it is legal for them to measure the weight of the object the acid is distributed on, and factor that into the amount of "acid" you are accused of possesing. Further more, manufacturing is a very, very serious charge and has nothing to do with how much illicit drug you actually have on hand. Be careful out there, mushrooms may be cool, but in my opinion not worth going to jail over

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17758 - 05/22/00 04:24 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I would have to agree here. This is probably the largest community of psylocybe cultivators, and yet we don't hear of anyone in this group getting busted. Now we get someone who's first post ever tells a horror story and implicates JLF. I think that this is exactly the sort of thing I might do if I had no morals and wanted to get back at a spore supplier for some previous slight. Suggesting that this supplier leaked to the DEA on a forum of this suppliers largest buying public would be a pretty effective way of hitting him right where he lives. I apologize sincerely if this story is entirely true, but the inconsistancies are a little glaring.

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17759 - 05/22/00 07:57 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Pappakapps, from what I've seen, there's no such thing as a FAT ASIAN COCK!


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17760 - 05/22/00 09:07 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

lol
most seem to be in denial.
they don't want to believe that it is possible to get busted because that would mean they too are vulnerable.
did it occur to anyone besides me that he might be posting from a new nick to avoid linking this post with his old nick ??
it seems prudent to avoid admitting that he is one and the same.
the landlord snooping is a plausable cause, i had a friend who took a pot bust because of a maintenance man entering his home while he was at work.
no warrant is needed to collect trash set to the curb either.

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17761 - 05/22/00 09:39 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I just want to add that your landlord cannot just walk into your house whenever he feels like it. You pay your rent, that affords you a certain amount of privacy. 24 hours notice is the norm.

Also, finding an empty bag of vericulite is not probable cause. Vermiculite is a legal product and not reason enough to obtain a search warrent. There are millions of bags of vermiculite sold every year.

I say the story is bullshit or else he isn't telling us everything.

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17762 - 05/22/00 07:42 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

my advice to you, or anyone in this same situation.
definetely try to find out who did this to you and kill them. seven whole fucking years of my life will not go down just for a shroom operation that is harmful to no one!
make sure you buy a plane ticket with cash to get out of the country.
this is what i'd do if this happened to me. sad things happen in this world, but with one less narc out there, peace will be that much closer.!


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17763 - 05/22/00 08:17 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

This is the first time I've been to The Shroomery since my "troubles"...needless to say I've got court coming up again soon here and probably alot of time to think about this whole mess afterwards.

I am really suprised of what they are doing with my couple of little cakes(only 3 of which even had pins!) I had totally convinced myself that for something that small (looked like a five year olds science project) they would surely see that it was just for personal use and not "stick it to me". DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE!!!

I don't know whats gonna happen in the end cause I've got no prior record but I'm sure it's not gonna be worth it! TRY MEDITATION AND READ THE BIBLE!
Those have helped me now more than shrooms ever did...



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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17764 - 05/22/00 08:44 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Hey SilliPutti, how exactlly did you get caught? Did someone rat you out, or did you have a situation much like our buddy that started this post? Give us some details man, it would be helpful information.


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17765 - 05/22/00 08:51 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

JLF was not responsible. Did it ever occur to you that spore syringes look like Heroin syringes? They thought you were on smack. THAT'S why they busted you. No one tracked a damn thing. Someone found a needle in your trashcan.


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17766 - 05/23/00 12:38 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Well if something like that doesn't rattle your cage a little bit, I don't know what will. Remember that there are people everywhere watching you... your mom, your landlord, big brother... they all might know what you're up to. Play it safe, don't leave shit from growing supplies in your garbage. Take the utmost caution when fucking with highly illegal processes. Lord knows I take my excess shit to a dumpster far from my house. You can never be too careful when it comes to your strange habits. I've got some weird hobbies that could land me in jail for a long time, I am stressed to say the least. Small price to pay for my fun...

I feel for you pal. That is one fucked up story...



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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17767 - 05/23/00 08:00 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

you fools. of course this story is fabricated. it's one of the spore dealers (or someone affiliated in some way with one of them) who is sticking it to JLF. oh well. lock this thread. keepin' it real

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17768 - 05/23/00 10:24 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

As a former employee of a apartment managment company, I am here to say that managment or maint staff can enter at any time with out your permission. Some prime excuses, errrrr examples are maint "emergencies" IE:

To check for roof leaks.
To check for water leaks into neighboring apts.
To gain access to sewage clean out.

Basicly if they want in, they have an excuse.

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17769 - 05/23/00 03:11 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Dudes, I'm so tired of hearing about this bullshit. :rolleyes:

Everyone knows they are running a risk when they grow shrooms. If you do illegal things either alot or you're not smart about it, or both, you will be caught. Period.

Just don't tell anyone and you wont be burned. And keep it low pro as well. Dont brag because that's extra worry. Dont sell it or give it out to random fools; that's not smart.

I soo tired of hearing people sway back and forth saying "it's not true; they cant bust you for spores; blah blah blah bs bs bs" and then others saying "broo i got burned...i hear 5 court cases everyday people getting sentenced to jail" well im sick of it and because of postings and readings like this you will worry and might even have bad trips as well.

Just stay cool and you'll be fine

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17770 - 05/23/00 03:29 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

quote:
Originally posted by botanicalbliss:
My folks had to fly in to post $13,000 bond to get me out of jail, I was arrested and charged with possesion and manufacturing with the intent to distribute. I had 7 grams of wet shrooms and 12 cakes with pins. The funny part is I never told anyone what I was doing...noone, I figured this being my 1st attempt to grow - I would fail miserably, guess I was right. Noone ever saw my set up, not even my best friend knew what I was doing. Which leaves me wondering how exactly the police got on to me. The warrant read probable cause do to anonymous tip, and growing supplies found in trash. WARNING: I visited this web site several times and ordered my spores from JFL. NOBODY had access to my apt. or knew what I was doing...I am assuming that either the feds somehow tracked my web browsing habits or have access to JLF records and saw that I ordered the spores...they found empty spore syringes and vermiculite bags in my trash and got a warrant. There is NO OTHER EXPLANATION...they didnt just go around the nieghborhood looking in peoples trash cans at night...they had to find suspition from either my web browsing or my order from JLF. I am told that if found guilty I will likely serve 7 years on a 10 - 15 year sentence. I am posting this in hopes it will save someone else from having to go through this ordeal. Knowing what I know now, I would say anyone growing and browsing these sites, or ordering from JLF should be VERY WEARY...I would discontinue operations for a while if I were you. Anybody with similar experiences, or who knows of others with a similar experience please let me know...I would like to figure out exactly with whom the blame lies, or what I could have done differently to have avoided this mess. I hope that this will save your hides.



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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17771 - 05/23/00 03:33 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

The goberment can definitely track internet traffic and they actually do on an ongoing basis...the question is where they are looking and when..they have the storage capabilites for the unlimited bytes going across the wires...they do this for the most part for national security reasons, spies and the like....its really no secret..I feel for you though and do believe this was a landlord/other dweller issue....


quote:
Originally posted by botanicalbliss:
My folks had to fly in to post $13,000 bond to get me out of jail, I was arrested and charged with possesion and manufacturing with the intent to distribute. I had 7 grams of wet shrooms and 12 cakes with pins. The funny part is I never told anyone what I was doing...noone, I figured this being my 1st attempt to grow - I would fail miserably, guess I was right. Noone ever saw my set up, not even my best friend knew what I was doing. Which leaves me wondering how exactly the police got on to me. The warrant read probable cause do to anonymous tip, and growing supplies found in trash. WARNING: I visited this web site several times and ordered my spores from JFL. NOBODY had access to my apt. or knew what I was doing...I am assuming that either the feds somehow tracked my web browsing habits or have access to JLF records and saw that I ordered the spores...they found empty spore syringes and vermiculite bags in my trash and got a warrant. There is NO OTHER EXPLANATION...they didnt just go around the nieghborhood looking in peoples trash cans at night...they had to find suspition from either my web browsing or my order from JLF. I am told that if found guilty I will likely serve 7 years on a 10 - 15 year sentence. I am posting this in hopes it will save someone else from having to go through this ordeal. Knowing what I know now, I would say anyone growing and browsing these sites, or ordering from JLF should be VERY WEARY...I would discontinue operations for a while if I were you. Anybody with similar experiences, or who knows of others with a similar experience please let me know...I would like to figure out exactly with whom the blame lies, or what I could have done differently to have avoided this mess. I hope that this will save your hides.



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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17772 - 05/23/00 03:37 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

This story Smells Like BULLSHIT!!!!!

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17773 - 05/23/00 04:51 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Well, as Maciavelli concluded, fear is the easiest method with which to keep the masses in line.

FUCK THAT.

Im grow two _beautiful_ White Widow's in my closet, and I have 3 pinning cakes (with 7 more on the way).

Sorry, but the image of two pigs going through my garbage is just to entertaining to pass up.

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17774 - 05/23/00 10:00 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Can a get a HELLZ YEAH for Rubicante?



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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17775 - 05/23/00 10:15 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

That totally sucks. Someone in their own home making shit for their own use gets busted. That's the government just putting across the message that if you're not a good little consumer, you go away to jail. Oh well... remember Rome. America in it's current incarnation will fall, eventually, because of it's pretentious and hateful attitude toward everything that's not money related. And that's my opinion. Keep it real, folks, and remember to love.


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17776 - 05/23/00 10:37 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

"...probable cause due to an anonymous tip".

If I'm not mistaken, in the American legal system, you have a right to face your accuser. You should be able to obtain that information.



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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17777 - 05/24/00 02:05 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Notice that this dude said he frequented the shroomery. Well, why does he have a new account with only 1 post then? I think this story is bullshit. Anyone else?

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17778 - 05/24/00 02:43 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

You don't get to know who the tip was from. The accuser in this case is the state. My friend got busted for having a party, because somebody called it in. They asked the police who called it in but they don't give out that info.

The cool thing is they didn't get in trouble because the cops just walked in without a warrant, even with the anonymous tip they weren't supposed to go in. The pig just walked in through the back door and let all of the other pigs in.

Bontanical, get a good lawyer.........you got screwed!!



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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17779 - 05/24/00 02:48 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I did a little research into sentencing.
It varies from state to state, but the federal sentencing guidelines are .1 g of WET mushrooms= 1 gram of marijuana and 1 g dry=1 gram mj.
I think that's pretty "reasonable" as far as such things go (yeah we all know drug laws suck...), and most smallish shroom operations aren't going to get you automatically nailed to the wall.
At least that's my rationale :smile:


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17780 - 05/24/00 12:42 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I personally think that the MAN would not try and pop you by yourself growing shrooms for yourself...The small-timers they pop are those who they believe will pussy out and make a deal to give up someone else higher on the chain...and spores aren't illegal so the probability that your story would make a good casing material(SHIT) is very high. I hardly ever hear of people in my area getting busted over shrooms. The cops have bigger fish to fry. Cocaine Dealers, Heroin Dealers, Meth, etc. So as much as your story seems to try and scare people or possibly deface JLF(which I personally have never ordered from...), It reeks of shit. One person I would be worried about is spore magic. He apparently went to JAIL. I would be a bit paranoid if I had made an order with him right before he went down. Other than that guys just stay safe.

ON ANOTHER NOTE
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A friend of mine inoculated 20 PF jars last night. He made ten jars with store-bought organic brown rice flour and put the Matias Romero in those, and he used brown rice and made his own flour for the other ten which received the Equador strain. I will keep you guys poster on his progress, and maybe he will let me take some pics.

-JJ

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17781 - 05/24/00 02:54 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

i don't know if this story is true or not, but to those of you who say the cops won't bother you because they look for the big people, not the personal growers - how many of you have seen cops sit next to the side of the road for hours at a time looking for someone going 10 mph over the speed limit? i think we all have, and a lot of cops get off on this. do you not think that those same cops would orgasm if they caught someone growing shrooms? even if it's only a couple cakes, it's big, and it makes the cop look good. if i went up to a cop and said, 'he's growing shrooms', do you not think the cop will be in the house right away?(perhaps after a visit to the nearest bathroom stall) saying that cops don't care about us is just close minded. if you think that, you're relaxing too much. paranoia isn't necessarily a bad thing. don't think they don't care. they do. everyone needs to be carefull. i know i used to be paranoid when i first started, then i came here, and saw all these people who were growing and didnt' seem worried about it, and even said not to worry about it. i started to get too comfortable. as camel said somewhere else, you have to remind yourself that this is illegal, and if caught, you can go to jail. it's only a hobby, but it's still a very illegal hobby. please, everybody, be careful. don't get sloppy. i don't want to hear of anyone(else) getting busted.

Link

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17782 - 05/24/00 07:08 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Link, do you think they (Fedz, local police, ect.) monitor the shroomery's posts in search of a small time bust?


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17783 - 05/24/00 10:27 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

i have no idea. i would have to say 'yes', though. especially after we made it to high times 100, i'd be surprised if SOMEONE wasn't keeping an eye on the site. don't give out any info you don't want 'them' to know.

Link

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17784 - 05/24/00 11:17 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know man, I would think that the cops would rather catch you dealing than growing. If this story is true, why didn't the cops wait and find out what you were going to do with the shrooms?

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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17785 - 05/25/00 04:46 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I heard on the news earlier that there is software you can use to cover your tracks on the net. Does anyone know of any?
(IM NOT PARANOID)


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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17786 - 05/25/00 06:06 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

The most complete software privacy package I've seen is at www.freedom.net. Its $60 for a year. It masks where you are browsing, where you are browsing from, and encrypts all communication between you and the freedom net. It leaves the freedom net as regular internet traffic, but can't be traced to you.

They did a damn good job, IMHO. There are other services, but I haven't seen any that protect traffic between you and your ISP.



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Re: Warning - BUSTED growing shrooms [Re: loppo]
    #17787 - 05/25/00 06:37 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry to add to this already lengthy post, but...Kilgore Trout, I love the nickname, and I've read all your books!


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