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kramer's grow op
    #1773456 - 08/02/03 06:56 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

kramer shut down his grow operation a few months back due to a nosey landlady :mad2:
he moved cross town in with a relative as it was a rush moving job
since he has been living with uncle milo he has tried to grow a couple small casings in the garage with nothing but contams so far
he can get the jars inocculated and colonized but everytime he tries to spawn some shit or just case his grains they conaminate
the only fruits he has seen is a few small ones from the trash pile building up out back(not enough for one good trip)
so what to do next? should he just give up untill he can find another clean place to set up(old house with wall to wall carpet at least 10 years old even in bathrooms) or would it be worth his time to try to fruit  some cakes
  he has several 1/2pint and pint jars
and is getting discouraged as he has lost at least 2 strains since he moved and doesn't want to lose any more
:nonono:
setting up the hepa and plastic is not really an option here
most of the contaminats are cobweb,green stuff,and black mold
please help him because he claims that all he want out of life is a huge shroom crop(and a few buds to smoke) 


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Re: kramer's grow op [Re: george castanza]
    #1773480 - 08/02/03 07:06 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

I've done casings and the rest but now it's just the once and a while crop to grow some shrooms for myself. The tek is the easy way to get yourself some shrooms. Like I said the other methods will give you more but as far as growing for myself I don't need to go further then the PF Tek

Grow Log
Tek : PF
Strain : South American [SA]
Spores : Came from homemade prints. 36 total jars to be injected.
Substrate :Brown Rice Flour [BRF] and Vermiculite [Verm]
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10:15 PM 3/4/03 : Project is started. Jar prep is just putting small holes in the lids for the spore syringe and then taping them closed until inoculation. Tape used is the standard black electrical tape. First batch of jars is mixed. The mix used is 2 parts verm, 1 part water, and 1 part brf. [ This mix is the max fruiting formula by PF.] Mix is put into 1/2 pint canning jars lightly, not packed in, and left it airy. Put substrate in until it reaches the threads of the jar, then add dry verm the rest of the way.
Jars are PCd at 10psi or 240f for a period of 45 minutes. Then jars were left to sit overnight to cool.


8:39 PM 3/5/2003 : First batch of jars injected. (24 jars)

10:04 AM 3/6/2003 : Incubator is running to low 77F. Going to turn it up today.


5:45 PM 3/6/2003 : Second batch of jars is in the PC will be injected tomorrow. Turned up incubator runs at 83F. 86F is the best and if the incubator is 83F and myc growing in the jars is suppose to create a little heat I figure this should work out well.

1:11 PM 3/7/2003 : Second batch of jars is done. (12 jars)

12:10 PM 3/9/2003 : Jars are doing good, no signs of contams


2:54 AM 3/19/2003 : Tape removed from the holes today and coffee filters put over the top of the jars for added protection. Holes were opened so the CO2 in the jars could escape. I gave 12 jars to a friend who kept fucking up. 24 jar?s about 75%done.


12:13 PM 3/22/2003 : Well it's Saturday and the jars will probably be done by the 25th. So it was 36 jars. 12 were given to a friend, 24 done by Tuesday.

10:26 PM 3/23/2003 : 15 jars were done enough to put into dunk. I dunk and cold shock before birthing and after every flush. The other 9 jars have a spot the size of a pea that has to be covered so I'll do those on the 25th.


7:17 PM 3/24/2003 : 15 jars put into the pod. Put in and put a layer of moist verm on top. With geolite I just put the cakes on it. With some other chambers I put the cake on a lid filled with verm. This is done to give the shrooms on the bottom and the top of the cake some added moisture.
The other 9 jars just finished so I'm going to give them a couple more days to make sure the middle of the cake is done.


4:57 PM 3/27/2003 : 5 More cakes birthed today, 4 left going to do them tomorrow or 3/29/2003

3:58 PM 3/29/2003 : Well I lost another cake. My wife's little 1 cake pod made from a 2 liter and a small fish pump and a little geolite used up her last cake so I gave her a SA to grow. The last 3 are in the cold shock dunk.
So the total is 36 jars done all colonized with no contams. 12 given to a friend, 1 to the wife, 23 mine

12:08 PM 3/30/2003 : Last of jars put in

12:02 PM 3/31/2003 : The first 15 cakes are pinning nicely and some have shrooms coming from the bottom.


11:01 AM 4/3/2003 : Things look to be going well.


1:02 AM 4/4/2003 : Took the first flush from four of the cakes. More will be done later today.


5/8/2003 : Total 23 cakes 164 grams dried.


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Re: kramer's grow op [Re: george castanza]
    #1773506 - 08/02/03 07:20 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

It sounds as if you are having some of the same problems as i am - maybe even a little more extreme if that's at all possible. From the sounds of things, you're light-years ahead of me experience-wise as I've never tried spawing poo. I can see how that would tend to attract contams in a contam-rich environment. I dunno where you live - is it at all tropical? With the input from others on this board, I've come to believe that since I live in a moldy house in a moldy country I won't be able to get good results until I break out the plastic sheeting. Unfortunately, I'm not able to have a plastic tent set up in my house - it's just a bit too obvious for my current situation.

What I am going to do - and this may be below someone with your level of experience - is to 1) revert back to a slighty upscaled version of Funky balloons 'Sea of Shrooms' tek because that way i only lose 1-2 cased cakes at a time when the contams do set in and 2) try an exeriment by casing some of my cakes with only inorganics - vermiculite for starters. 3) I'm also gonna cut back on the fanning and use even more f'in Lysol in my fruiting room. Look for a report on my results in a few weeks. Till then - I'd appreciate hearing about any strategies you are considering to overcome your contam problem.


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    #1773550 - 08/02/03 07:36 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

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Re: kramer's grow op [Re: george castanza]
    #1776652 - 08/03/03 10:46 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

maybe it's the area where your storing your grow???


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Re: kramer's grow op [Re: soochi]
    #1782842 - 08/05/03 08:40 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

ok so after thinking about it kramer thinks that switching back to brf could be the answer,brf is not nearly as prone to contam as grains...
still gotta try the super strain ks with grain.
to there credit the classic ks casing kramer has was 1/2 ate up with green nasty,and still pinning like crazy where it is not.
kramer lived in a super nasty house when he first started this hobby and brf did yeild good results...



thanks for the input everyone. Magash yours helped


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