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TeKHeAD009
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: Effed]
#1755801 - 07/28/03 10:48 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should format your drive so that you have a small, 1GB or so sized partition. Basically, the smallest size you need to store all your current and future sensitive data that you would want wiped.
What I would do is make a program that would erase everything on that partition, then copies a 1mb file over and over with an incrementing filename until it's completely full. That would be the quickest, simplest way to wipe the drive securely. Using one of the diskwipe programs that others named would work too.
At any rate, the small partition would minimize the time needed to complete the operation - ensuring you wipe the most sensitive data in the littlest time you may have.
I like the microwave idea though. That's the way I'd go if I didn't care about all my other hardware, and wanted to end it all with some fireworks.
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: TeKHeAD009]
#1755892 - 07/28/03 11:15 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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that's the best idea so far. localize the area that needs to be destroyed.
Text doesn't take up much space.
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: wingnutx]
#1760123 - 07/29/03 04:07 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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wingnutx said: 2 ways to make your data unrecoverable:
physically destroy the drive, like crush it to pieces. Don't try fire, since that may not destroy the platters.
get a program like 'wipe disk' that will write ones and zeros over the entire disk. this is time consuming, obviously.
You could build a really strong degaussing coil, but no guarantees.
Those disk wiping programs don't necessarily work -- it's possible for a determined agency to read 'under' the random ones and zeroes.
You could always wind a few hundred turns of wire around the drive and plug the ends into the wall...;)
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: Effed]
#1760163 - 07/29/03 04:15 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Leave a 12 gage next to the comp.
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1763660 - 07/30/03 05:50 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think I know any program that could recover info from a HD platter that had met up with a 12-gauge slug.
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[Re: Sev]
#1763727 - 07/30/03 06:17 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: matts]
#1763740 - 07/30/03 06:21 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eraser is a good one also, plus you can schedule wipes of unused disc space.
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: matts]
#1764756 - 07/31/03 12:39 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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matts said: That's why you need a program that rewrites 1's over and over and over and over. I've seen one called "Shreader" or something.
If i remember correctly, thats exactly what active killdisk does, but im still not entirely sure.
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: gir]
#1766869 - 07/31/03 04:52 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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There are shreders that will do DOD security level wipes. The BCWipe utility is a shell extender for Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP, intended to secure delete your files. It supports correspondent U.S. Department of Defense recommendations (DoD 5200.28-STD). The BCWipe utility provides several ways to shred file's contents from the disk: http://www.jetico.com/bcwipe3.exe
BCWipe for UNIX (Linux, SunOS, Solaris, IRIX, Digital Unix, FreeBSD, ... ) v.1.2 http://www.jetico.com/linux/
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: mntlfngrs]
#1766884 - 07/31/03 04:57 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not quite as quickly as a 12 gage though.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1766940 - 07/31/03 05:16 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not after factoring in cleanup time!
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: mntlfngrs]
#1766971 - 07/31/03 05:28 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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While you've got me there....
I'd bet if someone has something so incriminating on their system that they feel the need to wipe or shoot their drive, cleanup time is the least of their worries!
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1766993 - 07/31/03 05:38 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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and you have me there but Effed of course does not have anything illegal except music
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: Effed]
#1770166 - 08/01/03 03:50 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here goes:
Build a PC case out of 1/4" steel, and then insulate over that with mineral wool 2" thick.
Wire a package of thermite right above the drive, and ignite it if you need that drive gone ASAP.
Make sure you wear eye protection and have adequate ventilation.
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Re: Electromagnetic Hard Drive Erasing? [Re: mntlfngrs]
#1770953 - 08/01/03 07:52 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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and you have me there but Effed of course does not have anything illegal except music
That is correct. Im really am not worried about getting raided or anything. I kinda just wanted info on this subject. I had read about it and it sparked my interest. Thank you for all of the helpful replies guys.
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