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OfflineNoviseer
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how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy
    #1768833 - 08/01/03 11:40 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Having grown up in this environment of persistent anti-drug propaganda, my friends have naturally expressed concern over my recent discovery of mushies. I've tried to explain to them that I am responsible, that I trip infrequently, and that there are many productive members of society who indulge in psychedelics. Still, they are really scared for me. On my last trip I had persisting thoughts that I was being unfair for putting them through all that worry just so I could enjoy a high. My friend has told me that he wakes up in the middle of the night worrying about me and my sanity. I don't know what to tell them. How do I convince them that, while their hearts are in the right place, their fears are irrational?


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: Noviseer]
    #1768844 - 08/01/03 11:48 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Become educated. 

Mushrooms are non-addictive, the psychoative chemicals are flushed from your body generally within 8 hours and to over dose on muhsrooms is practically impossible. 

I read somewhere that you'd have to eat over 200 pounds of mushrooms to OD on them.  Your stomach would literally tear before that would happen. 

Psilocibin is quickly metabolized by the body. 

For concrete information to show your firends try picking up an issue of MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies ), found here - http://www.maps.org/

MAPS is a world reknowned organization and well accredited for their work. 

The best way to ease your friends anxiety is through education....  Boy, I sound like a public service announcement :wink:

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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: Lana]
    #1768950 - 08/01/03 12:44 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

> and to over dose on muhsrooms is practically impossible.

It would be stronger and more accurate to say for adults to overdose on mushrooms is practically impossible. There have been several documented cases of small children.toddlers that have died from accidental consumption leading to overdose.

I have also read of at least two adults that have died from an oversose on mushrooms. In both cases, the source was newsprint media, thus I do not know how accurate or reliable said reports were.

My knitpicking aside, you are 100% correct... education is the way to go.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: Seuss]
    #1768956 - 08/01/03 12:49 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

My guess would be that those people didn't overdose on shrooms but on poisonous mushrooms.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: cybrbeast]
    #1768970 - 08/01/03 12:57 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Having been conditioned by the 'Just Say No' message of ther last 20 years, they probably won't come around easily; I'd say hooking them up with quality info, not propaganda, is a good idea, and maybe they'd even consider trying a little themselves subsequent to gaining a better understanding than they presently have. If they're concerned you'll become weird and start speaking incomprehensible gibberish, just tell them that no, that won't happen, that's what happens when you don't take shrooms.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: cybrbeast]
    #1769096 - 08/01/03 01:31 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Education, know everything there is to know about the drugs before you do them, also LSD can make ya a bit loony, Ive read that 2 in every 1000 people who ingest LSD go temporarily psychotic for up to 48 hours, LSD can also cause flashbacks, panick attacks, chromosome damage (rumoured, not proven) and there is the risk of HPPD (hallucinogen persisting perception disorder).

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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: Kurrupt]
    #1769756 - 08/01/03 04:17 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

chromosome damage? Wasn't that propaganda bullshit?


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: cybrbeast]
    #1769823 - 08/01/03 04:32 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Yep


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: cherokee]
    #1769983 - 08/01/03 05:07 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

you should send them over here, or turn them on.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: gdman]
    #1769987 - 08/01/03 05:08 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: gdman]
    #1770385 - 08/01/03 06:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

the chromosome damage was BS i believe, because in the thing on erowid, they give reasons why they dont believe that. i remember a couple..

the scientists that were performing the research didnt even check the chromosomes before they put them in the petri dishes. they couldve been damaged before they were even brought in.

and the other is that chromosomes have shown that they act much differently to substances while in petri dishes instead of your body. dumping LSD directly on chromosomes is not what happens when you take a hit of blotter.

and flashbacks- i have flashbacks every day. its just you remembering something emotional, and i think LSD trips are very emotional. my flashbacks are just of different things, you know, sex and what not. flashbacks are more of a PLUS than a bad effect, i think.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: Noviseer]
    #1771337 - 08/01/03 11:51 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The best way to convince them is to practice moderation YOURSELF and SHOW THEM that it DOESN'T/HASN'T.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: Noviseer]
    #1771672 - 08/02/03 02:16 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

you are already crazy.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: dilatedcreature]
    #1771858 - 08/02/03 03:32 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Mushrooms make me crazy.
I'd say turn them on. As captain hubbard said, "If you don't think it's amazing, just try it"

shrooms and acid are experiences with no definite meaning, they cause a manifestation of whatever your thinking in your mind. If you've ever picked up a knife and thought what it would be like to peel your face off, mushrooms are not for you.
PCP though, that'll REALLY make you crazy.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: Grandpa]
    #1771913 - 08/02/03 03:56 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well done.
You've refuted propaganda aabout one drug and reinforced propaganda about another.
Try doing a bit of research before you decide that everybody that takes PCP goes insane. It was developed and used as a clinical anaesthetic after all.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: zeta]
    #1771927 - 08/02/03 04:02 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

mushrooms have changed the way i view the world and i believe that they are too blame for my mentality now....mushrooms made me crazy!!

my mind is seriously very different now...i sometimes wish that i was on my old previous train of thought because it was easier to live that way....my new mentality has me questioning life and ridiculing society and the way it works severely...everytime i see an action or something i question it.....its like im super smart now or something...i dont know



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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: liftedoff420]
    #1771941 - 08/02/03 04:07 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

my advice: try to bring them around, but at some point, you should give up and try getting new friends. Some people's predjudices are impossible to overcome.

It sucks. man, but drug use aint all fun and games.

what really sucks is when people laugh at your opinions and dont take what you say seriously just because they think the fact that you use drugs invalidates your logical brain.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1772019 - 08/02/03 05:03 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

what really sucks is when people laugh at your opinions and dont take what you say seriously just because they think the fact that you use drugs invalidates your logical brain.




I respect everyone's opinion on whether they should use drugs or not,but I can't stand it when some straight edge asshole that's never done a drug in their life tries to tell me an experience was necessarily invalid,or somehow fake because it was drug induced.



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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me crazy [Re: monoamine]
    #1772037 - 08/02/03 05:18 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I've had a few friends who thought all form of spirtuality is invalid simply because drugs were involved. I've read in a book somewhere that a researcher had a set of mystical experience reports side by side. Only some were sober experiences while some were drug induced. People were asked to choose which one was the sober and which one was the drug report. The results were pretty much 50/50. No one could tell the difference.


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Re: how do I reassure friends that mush, lsd won't make me c [Re: cherokee]
    #1772961 - 08/02/03 03:53 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ive read that 2 in every 1000 people who ingest LSD go temporarily psychotic for up to 48 hours

that study had a few facts like that, concerning attempted suicides, 3 in a 1000 or something like that.. it's funny though, because the conclusion of the study was that LSD is "astonishingly safe" so it's all relative. Look at malaria medication.. happy young people go backpacking wherever and they commit suicide because the "medicine" makes them so depressed.


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