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OfflineGazzBut
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Does Sharon want to see more bombings?
    #1761914 - 07/30/03 03:17 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

The Fence

How long can we realistically expect to see a Palestinian cease fire when the Israeli's are erecting a 370mile fence which will place west bank territory within it?

Even George agrees its a bad idea...

If the Israelis are making no meaningful moves towards stopping building illegal settlements can we really expect the militant Palestinians to sit idly by polishing their explosives?

Even George agress the settlements should be stopped...

Doesnt Ariel Sharon give a fuck about what George thinks? Outrageous!

After also ignoring the Road Map, which George had spent hours colouring in with crayolas, Sharon has the temerity to suggest the Palestinians should be doing more to remove the infrastructure of terror and should be targeting known terrorists. The problem for the Palestinian leadership is many Palestinians support Hamas. Especially those whose family and friends have been killed and those whose houses have been bulldozed to make room for Israeli settlements. Dont forget that for every Israeli killed in the current intifada around three palestinians have died. This makes it hard for the Palestinians to target their own people whilst the Israelis arent really keeping up their side of the bargain.

The key to removing the infrastructure of terror lies with the Israelis. If they were to stop building settlements, dispense with the fence and try and to follow the road map a little more closely then the militants would find little to cause them to end the ceasefire. Basically, the Israelis just need to listen to George (WTF am I saying!!)
The way they are going though, it wont be long before the militants are strapping on the TNT and going for an afternoon stroll around Tel Aviv. Which of course will be the cue for the Israelis to expand their settlments, burn the roadmap and clamp down further on the majority of Palestinians who are in fact innocent. Who knows they may even electrify the fence!


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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1762968 - 07/30/03 02:04 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

GazzBut said:
Even George agrees its a bad idea...

Even George agress the settlements should be stopped...

Doesnt Ariel Sharon give a fuck about what George thinks? Outrageous!

Basically, the Israelis just need to listen to George (WTF am I saying!!)


Although I rarely agree with George, I also agree with you that he is right on this one. But Sharon doesn't seem to agree with George, and I have a feeling George is going to back down and let Israel have their way (as American presidents always do). Time will tell...


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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: Cornholio]
    #1762999 - 07/30/03 02:16 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know about that Cornhoilio. I think he is going to try to force Israel to do the right thing this time. We do have quite a bit of leverage over them. I think if they don't really try this time we should stop supporting them. That is a hard thing for me to say, but if the Israelis blow this chance, they will have no one to be pissed at but themselves.

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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1763108 - 07/30/03 02:56 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I think an uncomfortable amount of world leaders are awaiting and even attempting to trigger more bombings


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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1763112 - 07/30/03 02:57 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Why would they want that?


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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1763124 - 07/30/03 03:02 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Chaos and crisis can assist leaders with tightening the "reins" on the people, in order to "protect" them.


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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: shakta]
    #1763482 - 07/30/03 04:37 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

shakta said:
I think he is going to try to force Israel to do the right thing this time.


I sure hope so; it's just that the US has always given in to Israeli demands in the past.


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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: Cornholio]
    #1763502 - 07/30/03 04:44 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I know. Bush wants to end this BS once and for all. Hopefully he can.

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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1763503 - 07/30/03 04:45 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

but thats likely a subconscious desire

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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: ]
    #1763513 - 07/30/03 04:49 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

What is that supposed to mean?

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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1765486 - 07/31/03 08:41 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

No take on this Inny or Luvvie?


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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1765493 - 07/31/03 08:48 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't feel strongly about it one way or another.

However, since you asked....

As long as the homicide bombings continue, Israel should do whatever they feel they need to do to stop them. If that includes an ugly wall, so be it.

I've said before I think both sides are fucked in the head, but once the homicide bombing of civilians started, the gloves could come off.


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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1765608 - 07/31/03 09:55 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

thats the point there is currently a ceasefire...ahh read the origninal post you lazy git!


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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1765880 - 07/31/03 11:47 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I did.

I still have no problem with the wall.


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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1765890 - 07/31/03 11:50 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

cease-fire = hudna = hamas needs time to resupply and rearm.

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Re: Does Sharon want to see more bombings? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1768168 - 08/01/03 01:51 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

pathetic. 

Edit: Sorry, bit hung over this morning. I just think its pretty shallow to say the ceasefire is purely due to hamas' need to rearm. You obviously dont want to admit that the Israelsi are in the process of inciting an end to the ceasefire. Or perhaps you were making a joke? If so you might want to polish up your comedy skills. Luvvie could probly give you a few tips, everything he says is hilarious!  :grin:


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