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Please..... I don't normally beg, but I will if necessary.....

Kill off the Quick Reply.

It would be one thing to have it if those who use it would only put in the name of whomever the post is directed to.... sadly, few do that leading to confusing (minorly) threads.

I would shed no tears if it vanished, never to re-appear.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1765276 -

I don?t know if you noticed, but there is a button "Quick Reply" in your post.
If I use this button, then the correct person is being addressed.


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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This post was created by using Quick Reply.


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Anno]
    #1765366 -

So was this one, I know how to use it just fine.

Unfortunately, most do not.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Anno]
    #1765376 -

I guess I see it this way, people seem to use the quick reply because they either don't wish to, or are to lazy to scroll back up to click on reply, or quick reply, next to the user name they are replying to. As a result they just fill in the quick reply field at the bottom, which then by default replies to the previous poster whether or not that is indeed the person they wish to reply to.

You and I, and I'm sure many others know how. Too many do not, leading to "did you mean to reply to me"?.... type questions, and "I never said that" responses.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Anno]
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Why not remove the quick reply box (which I am typing in now) from the bottom of the page and put it in a popout window created when the user clicks 'quick reply'?

Seems to be an easy change... just some javascript... and would fix the problem?


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Seuss]
    #1765467 -

While that would work, if you've taken the time to scroll back up to do so, you could just as easily hit reply.


Just get rid of it altogether.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1765635 -

luvdemshrooms VS Quick Reply, round one!  :cool:


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Meph]
    #1765667 -

I agree with luvdemshrooms on this one, but I am afraid that QReply is going to win the battle...


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #1765674 -

oh comeon!  is that the best you can do today?  i know you love to bitch, but at least bitch about something worthwhile.  geez...  :tongue:


Quote:
While that would work, if you've taken the time to scroll back up to do so, you could just as easily hit reply.



and wait 45 seconds for the reply page to load?  no thanx


peace-
BF


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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PLEASE!!!!!


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1772473 -

naw I think we should inculde something about proper use of the quick reply somewhere.


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: gdman]
    #1772516 -

Write it up, I?ll stick it in the FAQ.


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Anno]
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Anno said:
Write it up, I?ll stick it in the FAQ.


Actually, I think this idea from a few posts up would be the best bet...

Why not remove the quick reply box (which I am typing in now) from the bottom of the page and put it in a popout window created when the user clicks 'quick reply'?

Seems to be an easy change... just some javascript... and would fix the problem?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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[Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Re: Quick Reply [Re: matts]
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matts said:
That would be stupid, that would require me to open a new browser window. It would defeat the purpose of the quick reply.


Well, seeing as the quick reply in it's current form is more an irritation than anything, just bag it all together.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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[Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Re: Quick Reply [Re: matts]
    #1773410 -

OK


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Anno]
    #1773638 -

How about a check box at the quick reply,
"Reply to thread creator" vs "Reply to the last poster".

Or a drop down box of posters on the page.


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Anno]
    #1776771 -

Anno said:
Write it up, I?ll stick it in the FAQ. 


LMAO! *chortle* *snort* *snort* As if people actually read the FAQ! :grin:

I think we should abolish quick reply, as it destroys the context of the sub-threads, and is generally the bane of my existence!

PS: Anno, and if you side with me on this one, then I'll vote to make the FAQ a "splash screen" whenever someone posts! One hand washes the other... :wink:


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Papaver]
    #1776828 -

theres gonna be a riot if you get rid of quick-reply.

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1776880 -

Let them eat "Quote!" :wink:


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Papaver]
    #1777431 -

Quote:
I think we should abolish quick reply, as it destroys the context of the sub-threads


This is one of those moments when you display a sensibility far beyond those of mortal men!


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: matts]
    #1777614 -

maybe you could make it so that when quick reply is used, the post would read "re: all" or "re: quick reply." that would curb the confusion.


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: eric_the_red]
    #1777971 -

I like that... as a default if the user didn't hit the quick reply button...


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: eric_the_red]
    #1777990 -

I disagree, the confusion (such as it is) comes from it not always being clear who the poster is refering to. How would still not knowing who he or she is refering to help to clear it up?


If I was the grand poo-bah, I'd either go with....
1. Bag it, it sucks.
or
2. Why not remove the quick reply box (which I am typing in now) from the bottom of the page and put it in a popout window created when the user clicks 'quick reply'? <<< credit to Seuss. (which would NOT require a new browser window, just a small pop up along the lines of the spell check window)



Now, I understand someone worked hard on this feature and it would work just fine were not most too lazy or stupid to merely put the name of the person they are replying to in the post. The fact remains most do not.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1778086 -

Ahhh... I feel better... here is a nice, simple solution that I coded for the powers that be to consider...


Add the following javascript:

[pre]

var quickReplyMessage=-1

function validQuickReply()
{
if (quickReplyMessage==-1)
{

alert("You must specify the message you wish to respond to by clicking on a Quick Reply link before you can

submit this message.");
return(false);
}
else
return(true);
}

function quickreply(id) {
if (!document.getElementById) {
alert("This function doesn't support your browser. Scroll to the bottom of the screen and fill in

the Quick Reply box, or use the normal Reply function");
} else if (navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf("opera") != -1) {
alert("This function doesn't support your browser. Scroll to the bottom of the screen and fill in

the Quick Reply box, or use the normal Reply function");
} else {
obj = document.replier;
obj.Parent.value = document.getElementById('number' + id).innerHTML;
subject = document.getElementById('subject' + id).innerHTML;
if (!pattern.test(subject)) {
subject = 'Re: ' + subject;
}
obj.Subject.value = subject;
insertAtCaret(obj.Body, ' ');
obj.Body.focus();
quickReplyMessage=id;
}
}

[/pre]

(The last function already exists, I just added the last line to set the quickReplyMessage tot he passed message id)

And then finally, add the following to the continue/submit buttons:

[pre]
type="submit" name="textcont" value="Continue" class="buttons" onClick="return validQuickReply()"/>

[/pre]



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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Seuss]
    #1778097 -

Hmmm... I guess pre tags don't work... oh well, you can get the idea from what went through...

This will cause an error message to pop up if somebody tries to submit a 'quick reply' without first clicking on a quick reply link to specify the message that the quick reply is for.


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Just another spore in the wind.

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Seuss]
    #1778111 -

While that's all Greek to me, I applaud you for taking the time.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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[Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Re: Quick Reply [Re: matts]
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matts said:
or we could remove all of the "Re:" lines alltogether, and people would have to get used to replying with the name of the person, or quoting 


While that would work, it'd be a painful transition.  :lol:

While the thought of the confusion which would follow amuses the twisted side of me (don't be shocked, I know I hide it well), I think the best idea is the small pop out box put forth by Seuss.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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I can code that one up quickly too if anybody would like... send me a copy of showflat.php for reference.  :grin:


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Seuss]
    #1778636 -

This is the one I like best....


"Why not remove the quick reply box (which I am typing in now) from the bottom of the page and put it in a popout window created when the user clicks 'quick reply'?"


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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[Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Re: Quick Reply [Re: matts]
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Well, that's why I said it's all Greek to me.

So let's just get rid of it then.


I HAVE SPOKEN!    :lol:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1780889 -

> It's not very hard to see who's replying to what post...use context clues.

Ahhh... spoken by somebody that uses flat mode instead of threaded mode.  :grin:



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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Well, that's why I said it's all Greek to me.

So let's just get rid of it then.


I HAVE SPOKEN!    :lol: 


+1 vote to bag the quick reply crap!

I'm with you Luv! It blows, but not as bad as the lack of personal e-mail notification to just your own posts!

Hehehe... just had to rub that one in again :smile: 


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Papaver]
    #1785935 -

Quote:
  think we should abolish quick reply, as it destroys the context of the sub-threads, and is generally the bane of my existence!






that's your own damn fault for veiwing in thread mode  :tongue:

peace,
BF


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: matts]
    #1787337 -

I view in flat mode. What I'm talking about, is that it looks like I'm replying to matts, when in fact I'm responding to Brainfarmer. This is why I never use Quick Reply (aside from this one time)...


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Papaver]
    #1788527 -

Exactly. It's only good for threaded mode.

Since everyone (practically) views in flat mode, quick reply SUCKS!


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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns

I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

TM™ :cool:

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: TM]
    #1788686 -

I agree with Trip, quick reply sucks!

No if only I had thought of saying that...... oh, wait...


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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I think education is in order. Luvdem bitched at me to quit using it and I did. To be honest I never really noticed the RE: part of the posts before that. I still will use it if I am just adding my .03 to a topic and not responding to anyone in particular though. I think most of the people who do use it improperly just don't know any better.

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: matts]
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You just did exactly what luvdem is talking about. hehehe. :grin:

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: matts]
    #1790960 -

Now, see that? You just screwed it up yourself! You quoted ME in a reply to a different parent post! Now that "parent post reply notification" is back, I would never have known about it without happening to come back to this thread by chance and the person replied to gets an e-mail quoting something I said!

matts said:
>> Since everyone (practically) views in flat mode, quick reply SUCKS!

no, since everyone views in flatmode, the [Re: name] sucks.



No, the [Re: name] is NECCESARY BECAUSE almost everyone views in flat mode.

When I first became a member, I used the default (threaded view) for about 2-3 weeks which gave me a VERY clear understanding of post/thread/parent/child relationships.

After I understood how that works, I switched to flat mode because of ease/speed/comfort in reading posts. However, threaded mode is much easier to follow the heirararchy of the entire thread.

I still find reading in flat mode a bit confusing in some threads and without the [Re: name], nearly impossible at times.

I agree that education is in order, however it's too late to force members to use threaded mode for a period of time long enough to teach them how important it is to keep thread integrity for logistical value and comprehension of replies.

Or is it? (too late)... Yeah, it is for those already registered.

Just dump the damn bottom box already.


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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns

I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

TM™ :cool:

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: matts]
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"Context clues"?

Gimme a break! Read my previous reply again.

What is it matts? Are you lazy, or just stubborn?

If it were possible to poll just the "thread intellegent" members on whether or not to dump the box, it would be a landslide to "DUMP IT".


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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns

I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

TM™ :cool:

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: TM]
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Quick Reply was on the grassy knoll that cold November day in Dallas...


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Re: Quick Reply [Re: Papaver]
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papaver said:
Quick Reply was on the grassy knoll that cold November day in Dallas... 


Quick Reply  :devil::alert: was on flight 11 on 9-11-2001! :mad2: 


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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns

I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

TM™ :cool:

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Re: Quick Reply [Re: TM]
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Quick reply is staying... deal with it :wink: 


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