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Offlinedickmcplentie
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fruit flies fucking with the fungus
    #1763926 - 07/30/03 09:30 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

My friend has a version of a poor mans pod set up with the her first batch of cakes. The conditions are good and all is well but this evening she noticed a small black spot on top of a cake. She did surgery and when she went to put the cake back into place the saw something moving. On closer inspection she sees 3 fruit flies spreading disease as we speak.

What can she do?


here's the set up. You can see she has used shrink wrap to close any gaps in the top seal. The rest is sealed with tape and polyfil


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: dickmcplentie]
    #1763941 - 07/30/03 09:35 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

They are tough little bastard to deal with , just keep hand killing them as you see them . Even in sealed grow chambers these little f'krs manage to get in or hatch from eggs that were in casings , I noticed they tend to be more prevalent in coir casings . They tend to really become abundant as the myc gets more tired (produced a couple of flushes ) , in fact that is way to reduce there plague .,.. get rid of tray if you already got a couple good flushes , it beats letting them get a hold of other trays in early stages of fruiting .
Good Luck
PS Is this setup near a window or arcadia door ?
If so get a tube of silicone sealant and seal any and all little cracks to reduce their ability to get into the house or grow room .


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Edited by tripndicular (07/30/03 09:37 PM)


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: dickmcplentie]
    #1764210 - 07/30/03 11:10 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Here's what i do.Take 1 qt /liter water add 1 or 2 drops of detergent( to break the surface tension of water)crush 1 cigeratte and mix.Then add 1 or 2 teaspoons of hotsauce.One squirt of this shit will put the little bastards down.The nicotine in the mix is the actual killer,i just add the hotsauce so the little bastards assholes burn alittle bit before they croak.


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: shroomophile]
    #1764234 - 07/30/03 11:17 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

And you do what with this concocktion ? Mist it in chamber ? :crazy:
That stuff works great on tomatoe plants but on myc ????????????
I stick with murdering the fkrs with my bare hand  :smirk:, and doing all I can to lower chances of them getting in my house . :grin: 
Now you could smear garlic juice all around the perimeter and outerwalls of chamber to deture them from going in further . Most parasites hate garlic !


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Edited by tripndicular (07/30/03 11:19 PM)


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: tripndicular]
    #1764399 - 07/31/03 12:08 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I just use a fly killer spray that is water baseed it will kill the jackass flies and not hurt the mycelium.I had fungus knats and boy they are a pain in the but I fought them off long enough to get the flush and then I just trashed it.The spray I used to kill them was water based and didn't seem to hurt the mycelium at all


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1764431 - 07/31/03 12:25 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

It may be water based, but that does not mean its harmless. Remember, mushrooms have the ability to concentrate toxins, so using bug spray may not be a good choice.


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1764471 - 07/31/03 12:48 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

she squeezed the little fuckers until they were dead. She got about eight of the shits.
Some were very small, perhaps newborns. The water based killers sound like a good idea. She is very scared she just rubbed contams all over her hard to get cakes. At least the store bought killers would be less likely to contaminate.

On a lighter note: After only being in the fruiting chamber for about 10 hours she has 2 fruits growing straight down into the perlite (The lighting has been changed to counter the direction of growth). She doubts they will make it much further before aborting but the speed that the cakes "fuzzed" up is surprising. One cake had the top inch cut off during contam surgery just before dunking and cold shocking. When she checked it a few hours after birthing through the clear top she had to open the lid and see for herself that it wasn't just the condensation playing tricks. The entire top was covered with a fresh layer of myc and all the cakes were showing spikes of new growth. It's too soon to tell whats next but the first 24 hours has been exciting


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: dickmcplentie]
    #1764489 - 07/31/03 12:53 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

well the mycelium lasted to get a flush and i didn't see any signs of trouble yeah I wouldn't recommend it but it did me well


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: dickmcplentie]
    #1765340 - 07/31/03 09:24 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

im having the same problem as you....
here's my proposed solution...
1st ditch all cakes + casings.
the gnats layed eggs in your cakes/casings fo' SURE.
those things only live a few days, so they breed like crazy.
they are too small fer me to catch by hand. i just dont have the patience...

so now that u got rid of any cakes/casings
bleach the entire rubbermaid + perlite
i figure a 1:10 solution should be enuff to kill any remaining eggs or gnats (any suggestion? ya think this is enuff? does bleach kill gnats?)

Rinse, then resume growing....

perhaps this is a bit drastic, but id rather lose my current casing, and end this shit NOW
than battle them and possibly lose the bulk i have comin up...

[hyp]


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: hyper_dermic]
    #1765528 - 07/31/03 11:07 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well that's not really an option. My friend will tear her hair out if she doesn't see some success fairly soon. I think she is going to go the patients, hoping for the best route.

Perhaps if and when the little fuckers come back/hatch she will try the death by cigarette solution. That sounds painful to them and safe for the little shroomy's that are now starting to show their little heads already. Other than this things are going great for her, I hope it lasts. She needs a little reaffirmation that this is all worth it


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: dickmcplentie]
    #1765708 - 07/31/03 12:45 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Using pesticides is not wise , like someone mentioned mushrooms have a tendency of absorbing such chemicals and enhancing it , which means when you eat them it can and will effect you .
There is a product out , just ask around ...
It is nothing more than garlic juice in a concentrated form that you spray and it will act as a barrier that most if not all flying pests hate . It is natural , should not harm myc if it comes in contact (use only to spray walls , window cracks , etc...) , safe if you breath , ingest it , or accidently misaplicate it . If you cannot find it commercially , it is easy enough to make your own .
Get several cloves of whole garlic at grocery store , smash it up and put into a sauce pan with a couple of cups of water , bring to gentle boil for 5 mins , strain out big chunks, let cool put in a mister and spray any windows near grow area (inside and outside also ) making sure you hit cracks a crevices , then spray the outer walls of your grow chamber (dont get crazy but apply a barrier to the chamber ) , this should sppok off the majority if not all the little sum bitches .
That is bizzare you guys are getting them before a first flush appears , like I said I notice them after one or two flushes .
Remember the stroger and more concentrated you can make the bug juice the more effective it will be , but also clean it up periodically to prevent bacteria from becoming a problem .
But sealing windows and doors cracks has also helped alot since it was done , any window silicone will work .
Good Luck and Happy Bug Hunting  :wink: 
PS I gaurantee you this soap , cigarett solution will harm myc and or developing pins


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Any information I give is not intended to aide you in the production of potentialy illegal substances !None of my exp comes from growing illegal varities , so take it as you will .
So with that said here is our mission statement .

Then the priest fell into a trance or swoon,& said unto the Queen of heaven ; Write unto us the ordeals; write unto us the rituals; write unto us the law !


Edited by tripndicular (07/31/03 12:48 PM)


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: tripndicular]
    #1765854 - 07/31/03 01:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Here's what you do to get rid of those lil pain in the ass once and for all you go out and buy a can of hairspray if you already don't have once and then you'll need a lighter of some matches I bet you know where i'm going with this huh hahaha.Then yep you guessed it torch the sons of bitches!!! (just joking)



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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1765872 - 07/31/03 01:46 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

FLAME ON BUDDY ! If all else fails a little napalm will the do the trick ! :wink: 


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So with that said here is our mission statement .

Then the priest fell into a trance or swoon,& said unto the Queen of heaven ; Write unto us the ordeals; write unto us the rituals; write unto us the law !


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: tripndicular]
    #1765989 - 07/31/03 02:32 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

lol yep that right..your mushrooms may be well done but the fly problem will be 130% fixed thats a 30 day money back guaranty.


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: dickmcplentie]
    #1766156 - 07/31/03 03:24 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

hang some fly tape from the top of your terrarium. that will cut down on the flying ones. the larvae in the cake will still cause you problems, though.


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Re: fruit flies fucking with the fungus [Re: eric_the_red]
    #1928914 - 09/18/03 02:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

BUMP this thread rules, it just helped a monkey in afghanistan.

Try double sided tape along the walls of your terrarrium by the cake.


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