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Offlinemerlink
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Rusty colored liquidy goo = contam? *PICS ADDED*
    #1762973 - 07/30/03 04:05 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)



Notice the rust colored liquid...



A little better look, showing the cake rapture..




Bottom of jar to show you the build up of the liquidy stuff.


Contam or mycelium piss?

-Merlin :syringe:
 


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Re: Rusty colored liquidy goo = contam? [Re: merlink]
    #1764605 - 07/31/03 01:41 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

its tough to tell without a pic but sounds like it could be this

Wet Spot; Sour Rot - Bacillus sp.

In grain spawn jars, one commonly encounters Bacillus, which sometimes survives the sterilization process as heat resistant endospores. . A dull gray to mucus-like brownish slime characterized by a strong but foul odor variously described as smelling like rotting apples, dirty socks or burnt bacon. Bacillus makes uncolonized grain appear excessively wet, hence the name "Wet Spot". Pallid to whitish ridges along the margins of individual grain kernels characterize this contaminant. Bacillus primarily reproduces through simple cell division. In times of adverse environmental conditions, especially heat, a single hardened spore forms within each parent cell body - bacterial endospores, which can survive high temperatures for prolonged time.
The most practical method for eliminating bacterial endospores involves soaking the grain at room temperature 12 - 24 hours prior to sterilization. Endospores, if viable, will germinate within that time frame and then be susceptible to standard sterilization procedures. And, new endospores won't form in the moist environment of the resting jar of grain.

check the contam faq for pics


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Re: Rusty colored liquidy goo = contam? [Re: chineseguy]
    #1765054 - 07/31/03 06:01 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Red is not good. As chineseguy said, a pic would help a lot.

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Re: Rusty colored liquidy goo = contam? [Re: MAIA]
    #1770534 - 08/01/03 07:19 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

That is definitely contamination, your gonna have to toss it.


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Re: Rusty colored liquidy goo = contam? [Re: monkeymagic]
    #1770544 - 08/01/03 07:21 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Hey, my kitten had this too. The entire jar was colonized except at the bottom where that weird gooy stuff was. Well, my kitten was hoping that the mycelium would overwelm it, but it didn't and so since she was sick of waiting she dumped out the cake to poke at the gobs of stuff.

It was really gross..did't reallly smell, but it was mushy and disgusting. Ew

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Re: Rusty colored liquidy goo = contam? [Re: MOTH]
    #1777443 - 08/04/03 05:51 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If it doesn't smell i believe that stuff is mycelium piss, you'll know when you birth it. Try to take out the cake carefuly, don't use the bottom part, if it smells toss it.

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Re: Rusty colored liquidy goo = contam? [Re: MAIA]
    #1780248 - 08/05/03 02:32 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If it is mycellium piss...that cakes got one helluva bladder.


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Re: Rusty colored liquidy goo = contam? [Re: GregHimself]
    #1780623 - 08/05/03 06:29 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Sometimes it can happen. It seems that if you keep the jar at a high temp it will build up more excretion. This also can happen if the anaerobic environment created by the piss has already served as spawn material for bacterial contamination. The second issue produces a distinct bad smell.

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Re: Rusty colored liquidy goo = contam? [Re: MAIA]
    #1780927 - 08/05/03 10:02 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

> Sometimes it can happen

In my experience, this is typically seen in larger jars and bags.


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