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Offlinekhemfusion
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Cubes with bran?
    #1762717 - 07/30/03 02:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Has anyone tried growing cubensis on a bran substrate? Just wondering, I searched the forums and saw some posts with bran for other mushrooms, any ideas?


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Re: Cubes with bran? [Re: khemfusion]
    #1762918 - 07/30/03 03:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yes I have seen this. Browsing the grow log yesterday. Believe the grower was retired but had quite good things to say about it. TMC has a recipe. Sorry don't remember his name but go look around try "retired grow" or something like that


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Re: Cubes with bran? [Re: thisone]
    #1762966 - 07/30/03 04:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Coming from The Mushroom Cultivater
Brown rice flour
87.8% dry matter
9.1% protein
2.0% fat
1.1% fiber
74.5% n-free extract
1.1% total minerals
.04% calcium
.25% phosphurous
1.46% nitrogen

Wheat Bran (all analyses)
90.1& total dry matter
16.9% protein
4.6% fat
9.6% fiber
52.9% n-free extract
6.1% total minerals
.14 calcium
1.29% phosphurous
2.7% nitrogen
1.23% potasium

I understand this may not be what you were looking for, but it shows the comparisons.
What I found was on pg. 54
4 parts sawdust (hard wood)
1 part bran
Soak sawdust in water for at least 20 hours, drain, then mix with bran. If mixture has proper water content, a firm squeeze will result in a few drops between fingers. Fill material to neck of jar. Strerilize 60-90 minutes at 15 psi. Once cooled inoculate from agar, liquid emusion, or grain.


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Re: Cubes with bran? [Re: screaminsemen]
    #1764598 - 07/31/03 01:38 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting, might try this once I have more experience under my belt.
When it says "liquid emulsion" does that mean a spore syringe?


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Re: Cubes with bran? [Re: khemfusion]
    #1764629 - 07/31/03 01:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Liquid mycelium solution.


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Re: Cubes with bran? [Re: MrMaddHatter]
    #1764728 - 07/31/03 02:28 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ah, I have a lot to learn, thanks everyone


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Re: Cubes with bran? [Re: khemfusion]
    #1764780 - 07/31/03 02:50 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

why sawdust? why not grind the bran down to fine flower then use verm?


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Re: Cubes with bran? [Re: whole9]
    #1764812 - 07/31/03 03:11 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If you use sawdust, the whole thing is shakeable and separable.
Otherwise you would get a cake, like a PF cake.
Since it is to be used as spawn, having a cake would require the extra step of crushing it. Besides, this is a spawn for wood loving species, so wood can only be beneficial to have in the spawn.


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Re: Cubes with bran? [Re: Anno]
    #1884402 - 09/05/03 10:37 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I've just inoculated a few jars filled with verm & wheat bran, Ill let you know how they turn out.


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Re: Cubes with bran? [Re: HelterSkelter]
    #1901724 - 09/10/03 12:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Alright, well 5 days later I see the first growth with my wheat bran jars. The bran has been ground into a flour in one jar, but the other 2 are bran as you buy it in the store. There is not noticeable difference in the growth between the ground and unground bran, but it is certainly colonizing faster than the BRF cakes I innoculated on the same day (I barely see growth, it is either miniscule or im having wishful hallucinations*).



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