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Anonymous

Let's settle this...
    #1762516 - 07/30/03 01:30 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I don't post here often, I mostly just read, but I noticed the issue often comes up of how there are more conservatives/liberals than the other here. And some people think it's the other way around. So let's settle this by a poll to find out.

What is your political stance?
Conservative
Liberal
Centrist/Moderate
Authoritarian
Libertarian



I know the options are pretty simplified, but it should get the job done. And personally I have a feeling there's more libertarians here than anything else.


Votes accepted from (12/31/69 07:00 PM) to (No end specified)
View the results of this poll



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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: ]
    #1762520 - 07/30/03 01:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Libertarian, if I have to pick just one.


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: ]
    #1762526 - 07/30/03 01:34 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

look in the polls section, you'll see i started one using just left and right.


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: ]
    #1762532 - 07/30/03 01:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i think every single conservative here will vote libertarian. that, and something like half the lefties will vote 'liberal' and the other half will say that they are moderates.


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1762539 - 07/30/03 01:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Oh I didn't even look there.


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: ]
    #1762542 - 07/30/03 01:38 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Actually i'm kind of ammused that a lot of libbies call themselves Libertarian, when half would qualify as liberals and or socialists.


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1762549 - 07/30/03 01:43 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

haha... yeah, i enjoy that too...

"what... wait a minute... there's no welfare with libertarianism?"


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1762560 - 07/30/03 01:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Lots of conservatives, paleo-conservatives anyway, lump libertarians in with liberals. Of course, they have to deliberately misrepresent what libertarianism is in order to do so.

Go check out a thread about the war on drugs on freerepublic.com. Some of those guys are pretty bitter :smile:



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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: ]
    #1762566 - 07/30/03 01:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

"what... wait a minute... there's no welfare with libertarianism?"




Guess what happens when you don't feel like working (when you have the ability) in a libertarian society....you starve.


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1762582 - 07/30/03 01:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Innvertigo said:
Quote:

"what... wait a minute... there's no welfare with libertarianism?"




Guess what happens when you don't feel like working (when you have the ability) in a libertarian society....you starve.



Which is exactly how it should be.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1762596 - 07/30/03 02:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Put one in that says "progressive", and I'll click it.

And wait a sec... cuz I actually agree with Luvdemshrooms - that IS exactly how it should be.

/e looks outside to see if frogs are raining from the sky...  :devil:


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: GernBlanston]
    #1762607 - 07/30/03 02:09 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Here's another......

People shouldn't have kids if they can't afford to raise them.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1762643 - 07/30/03 02:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Here's another......

People shouldn't have kids if they can't afford to raise them.




Sure...but how do you stop them?


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: hongomon]
    #1762654 - 07/30/03 02:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Simply do not subsidize their spawning. Don't reward irresponsible behavior.


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: ]
    #1762655 - 07/30/03 02:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I try to stay near the center--that way I can sling mud freely in all directions. I'm actually left of the center, though. It's hard to be a libertarian AND an environmentalist.


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: wingnutx]
    #1762660 - 07/30/03 02:24 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

spawning..ha :grin:


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: wingnutx]
    #1762661 - 07/30/03 02:24 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

That's a good start. Tax incentives where dependents are concerned are about 180 degrees off.


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: hongomon]
    #1762667 - 07/30/03 02:26 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

hongomon said:
I try to stay near the center--that way I can sling mud freely in all directions. I'm actually left of the center, though. It's hard to be a libertarian AND an environmentalist.



I had a friend in High School who was both those things.


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: silversoul7]
    #1762693 - 07/30/03 02:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

I had a friend in High School who was both those things.




I thought it was possible because they aren't mutually exclusive, unless there is some sort of program attached.


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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson


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Re: Let's settle this... [Re: wingnutx]
    #1762700 - 07/30/03 02:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

wingnutx said:
Simply do not subsidize their spawning. Don't reward irresponsible behavior.



Bingo. Give the man a cigar.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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