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OfflineAll We Perceive
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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: GrimTroll] * 2
    #17597244 - 01/23/13 03:24 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

What do you think speakers make?  Vibrations.  When someone puts a guitar pedal effect on their guitar tone does that make you shriek with disillusionment?  What about a keyboard?  Certainly that can't be a "real" instrument.  Dark Side of the Moon could not have been played live at the time due to technological limitations so it was played in parts and then all cued together.  That makes it a false and uninspired album.  :lolsy:  People who can't listen to anything electronic because it wasn't made with "real" instruments have a lot in common with people who only eat "natural" drugs.  They are both making bullshit arguments.


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OfflineThe Vapor
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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: All We Perceive]
    #17597250 - 01/23/13 03:26 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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All We Perceive said:
What do you think speakers make?  Vibrations.  When someone puts a guitar pedal effect on their guitar tone does that make you shriek with disillusionment?  What about a keyboard?  Certainly that can't be a "real" instrument.  Dark Side of the Moon could not have been played live at the time due to technological limitations so it was played in parts and then all cued together.  That makes it a false and uninspired album.  :lolsy:  People who can't listen to anything electronic because it wasn't made with "real" instruments have a lot in common with people who only eat "natural" drugs.  They are both making bullshit arguments.




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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: The Vapor] * 2
    #17597303 - 01/23/13 03:38 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

how its produced is completely irrelevant, who cares? it about how it sounds and how it makes you feel etc etc

i dont give a shit if its produced on a computer or by instruments, if its good its good

having said that, im def down with shpongle and dubstep, ive actually seen live shpongle (not a simon posford DJ set) and it was sick and the weather made it soooo much cooler too, for anyone at camp bisco 10, u know what i mean


but shpongle and dubstep are 2 completely different EDM genres, they really arent very comparable


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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: GrimTroll]
    #17597317 - 01/23/13 03:41 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Zerovirus said:
There is just something about synthetic music that makes me feel like im gaining nothing.




all music is man made.
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GrimTroll said:
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StateOfMind404 said:
you can also bash a genre all you want, but that doesn't actually make your opinion a reality. different strokes!

btw, since music is really just a pattern made from sounds into a rhythm, the computer is most definitely an instrument, albeit a digital instrument.

just because you like analog instruments over digital instruments or vice versa, doesn't ACTAULLY make one better than the other.





Again, that is YOUR opinion.




how is what i said an opinion???

so you're saying that music is not and i quote, "The art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion."? ( https://www.google.com/search?q=music+definition&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a )  because this is exactly what i was pointing out, you can clearly 'combine vocal instrumental sounds to produce a harmony and express emotion' with a kaos pad, computer, or even an electric keyboard.  i guess instrumental hip hop made on a sound board isn't music, and i guess ronald jenkees has no goddamn idea what he's doing.

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Some would argue you can not quite match the feeling you can pull out of a real instrument.



And their arguments would be opinions.





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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: 404]
    #17597362 - 01/23/13 03:49 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

ohhh hold on it gets better, read plz http://www.ecoworld.com/ideas/music-ideas/study-music-training-primes-brain.html I think I used this for a paper, disproving darwin's theory on the origin of music along the lines of , "musical notes having little importance to man's daily life as the mystery withers with advance of science" music invokes emotion if done properly, every one inspiration, joy, understanding, nostalgia name one


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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: Dough]
    #17597369 - 01/23/13 03:49 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

as our understanding of life and the forces of nature improve imagine music on steroids that does crazy things to your brain, binarual beats, that weird sound drug shit


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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: Dough]
    #17597497 - 01/23/13 04:13 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Shpongle all the way imo :thumbup:

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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: All We Perceive]
    #17597504 - 01/23/13 04:15 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

lol, you guys are hilarious. Talk about self limiting.

I personally believe that no matter what - sure electronic music is great, I never said it wasn't - my god.

Hahah.

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All We Perceive said:
What do you think speakers make?  Vibrations.  When someone puts a guitar pedal effect on their guitar tone does that make you shriek with disillusionment?  What about a keyboard?  Certainly that can't be a "real" instrument.  Dark Side of the Moon could not have been played live at the time due to technological limitations so it was played in parts and then all cued together.  That makes it a false and uninspired album.  :lolsy:  People who can't listen to anything electronic because it wasn't made with "real" instruments have a lot in common with people who only eat "natural" drugs.  They are both making bullshit arguments.





at least half of my music collection is electronic, hahah; I never once said I did not LIKE electronic music, or think it is worthy, I just believe in the end of days, without electronics, music will still be made by hitting something, vocalizing or strumming.


The only speakers that would exist are the guitar and voice of the individual, or whatever their case may be.

It's in our DNA; specific types feeling manipulation.
This is where music becomes very picky and opinionated.

True feeling seeps through any aesthetic; but I believe that original natural way, is the best.

Fuck, you guys take other peoples opinions like a dick in your ass.


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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: Temnozor]
    #17597526 - 01/23/13 04:21 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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I think its important to recognize that dubstep has its roots in deeper and darker dub music that originally (I think) came from the UK, and that while I'm sure there are many dub music producers in the states producing really good stuff, a lot of the mainstream popular dubstep is unappealing to a lot of people, including me and some of you probably, because its so superficial, it doesn't get deep and expressive, its like a computer animal in the middle of dying a terrible death. Or at least thats what I compare it to usually. I'm not a fan.

And word state, very wise. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean others don't like it as well.

This is an old track but for me this is what real authentic dub music is (I realllly hope you listen to it with good headphones or a good speaker system, SOO ILLLL!)






Sort of right, dubstep came from dub and 2 step in the UK. But the song you posted isn't dub, it's dubstep. Dub comes from reggae.
Sounds like this:

(sounds shit unless you have a sub)

Unless you were abbreviating dubstep to dub, then carry on.


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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: spoonbomb]
    #17597532 - 01/23/13 04:22 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

On the topic of shpongle, I have only listened to them once.
It was my first shroom trip and I have no idea how i got there but somehow I was listening to shpongle on youtube.
There was loads of crazy flutes and african drums, it got pretty intense to the point where I wanted to turn it off.
But then the style of the song changed and I was all good again.


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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: Zerovirus]
    #17597665 - 01/23/13 04:49 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Zerovirus said:
To get across a message




Shpongle's Nothing Lasts ... carries a message. Just have to pay attention. But I hear what youre saying. Thats why I enjoy artists like tool, cog, Androcell, bahramji, carbon based lifeforms, and a few others.

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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: GrimTroll]
    #17599361 - 01/23/13 09:45 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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GrimTroll said:
lol, you guys are hilarious. Talk about self limiting.

I personally believe that no matter what - sure electronic music is great, I never said it wasn't - my god.

Hahah.

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All We Perceive said:
What do you think speakers make?  Vibrations.  When someone puts a guitar pedal effect on their guitar tone does that make you shriek with disillusionment?  What about a keyboard?  Certainly that can't be a "real" instrument.  Dark Side of the Moon could not have been played live at the time due to technological limitations so it was played in parts and then all cued together.  That makes it a false and uninspired album.  :lolsy:  People who can't listen to anything electronic because it wasn't made with "real" instruments have a lot in common with people who only eat "natural" drugs.  They are both making bullshit arguments.





at least half of my music collection is electronic, hahah; I never once said I did not LIKE electronic music, or think it is worthy, I just believe in the end of days, without electronics, music will still be made by hitting something, vocalizing or strumming.


The only speakers that would exist are the guitar and voice of the individual, or whatever their case may be.

It's in our DNA; specific types feeling manipulation.
This is where music becomes very picky and opinionated.

True feeling seeps through any aesthetic; but I believe that original natural way, is the best.

Fuck, you guys take other peoples opinions like a dick in your ass.




Lol @ the idea that there is anything besides the original natural way.


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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: GrimTroll]
    #17599394 - 01/23/13 09:49 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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GrimTroll said:
lol, you guys are hilarious. Talk about self limiting.

I personally believe that no matter what - sure electronic music is great, I never said it wasn't - my god.

Hahah.

Quote:

All We Perceive said:
What do you think speakers make?  Vibrations.  When someone puts a guitar pedal effect on their guitar tone does that make you shriek with disillusionment?  What about a keyboard?  Certainly that can't be a "real" instrument.  Dark Side of the Moon could not have been played live at the time due to technological limitations so it was played in parts and then all cued together.  That makes it a false and uninspired album.  :lolsy:  People who can't listen to anything electronic because it wasn't made with "real" instruments have a lot in common with people who only eat "natural" drugs.  They are both making bullshit arguments.





at least half of my music collection is electronic, hahah; I never once said I did not LIKE electronic music, or think it is worthy, I just believe in the end of days, without electronics, music will still be made by hitting something, vocalizing or strumming.


The only speakers that would exist are the guitar and voice of the individual, or whatever their case may be.

It's in our DNA; specific types feeling manipulation.
This is where music becomes very picky and opinionated.

True feeling seeps through any aesthetic; but I believe that original natural way, is the best.

Fuck, you guys take other peoples opinions like a dick in your ass.





what?

guitars are so synthetic man....

do you think a caveman can hollow out a guitar and string it?

no no, the only true music is singing and beat boxing.

instruments are so... synthetic.


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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: propensity]
    #17599403 - 01/23/13 09:50 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

The only music I listen to is birds, bugs, and the leaves crunching under my bare feet.

And I try not to eat anything other than random plants its only natural.


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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: limentroll]
    #17599419 - 01/23/13 09:55 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

check out the post i just made in the pub called Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS.org) Benefit Album [Psychedelic].
You guys would totally dig the music. Brand new psychedelic artists.
Check it out:
https://soundcloud.com/rundmtbeats/something-fiction-lucid-dream

https://soundcloud.com/skytree/something-fiction-the-sky


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Re: Shpongle>Dubstep [Re: visionstream]
    #17599505 - 01/23/13 10:08 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, because making good dub is easy as fuck  :facepalm:

Who cares! I have no understanding of genres nor do I care. I have filthy dubstep on the same playlist that I have Deep Forest, Sphongle, and meditation music on. I like it all


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