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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Revok]
#17578522 - 01/20/13 12:41 PM (11 years, 28 days ago) |
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"fancy words" come from "book learnin'".
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Revok]
#17578628 - 01/20/13 01:07 PM (11 years, 28 days ago) |
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KafkasDog said: I find it funny in a forum dedicated to pursuit of intellectual ideas people condemn any use of language as egotistically superfluous. If any questions exists concerning my meaning or intent I will gladly clarify, but attacks on my word choice seem petty and ignorant. I spend most of my time in OTD where I am more than willing to adjust my vernacular to commune with you on a different level.
OK, let's examine your post here; after all, that's what you're asking for.
My first reaction to your OP was exactly as Icelander stated. Your vocabulary is not appropriate for such a discussion and it uses big words that are superfluous and makes your writing stilted and hard to discern your meaning from it.
For example, you use "intellectual ideas." What other ideas would you be talking about. Ideas are, by their nature, "Intellectual."
And you say "I spend most of my time in OTD where I am more than willing to adjust my vernacular to commune with you on a different level.
Far better to adjust your Writing (you don't have "a vernacular" (you shouldn't use words that you don't know the meaning of as you have here; doing so merely exposes you as a poseur) and express your ideas clearly in THE vernacular.
As to the 'petty" nature of the remarks, your stilted writing makes it hard to take you serious. I've noticed that people who dont take someone seriously tend to offer replies that you would consider "petty."
And here you are, blaming others for not taking you seriously when in fact, the fault, Dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but ourselves...
We are not to blame for your lack of clarity, it is your fault. Whining about other not taking you seriously is seriously weak sauce.
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KafkasDog said: "fancy words" come from "book learnin'".
In that case, you would benefit from some remedial courses in English composition.
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Rool Kat]
#17578772 - 01/20/13 01:32 PM (11 years, 28 days ago) |
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Icelander said: I think you like fancy words and that was the point of the OP.
I think you just nailed it!
Well at least we agree on something.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Icelander]
#17579133 - 01/20/13 02:15 PM (11 years, 28 days ago) |
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Icelander said: I think you like fancy words and that was the point of the OP.
I think you just nailed it!
Well at least we agree on something. 
Well, when you are right, you are right. Can't deny it. 
Of course, the converse it true, equally.
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Rool Kat]
#17579304 - 01/20/13 02:38 PM (11 years, 28 days ago) |
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Of course, the converse it true, equally
True and in the course of time there is a possibility that could happen.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Icelander]
#17579663 - 01/20/13 03:25 PM (11 years, 28 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Of course, the converse it true, equally
True and in the course of time there is a possibility that could happen. 
Theoretically, of course. Theoretically.
At least, that's what it says here...
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Rool Kat]
#17579760 - 01/20/13 03:43 PM (11 years, 28 days ago) |
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Nice to see you still cruising the planet.
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Icelander]
#17579923 - 01/20/13 04:12 PM (11 years, 28 days ago) |
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Icelander said: Nice to see you still cruising the planet. 
Thanks! And believe me, it's nice to be still cruising the planet!
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Rool Kat]
#17589440 - 01/22/13 09:48 AM (11 years, 26 days ago) |
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Rool Kat said:
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Icelander said: I think you like fancy words and that was the point of the OP.
I think you just nailed it!
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Rool Kat said:
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KafkasDog said: I find it funny in a forum dedicated to pursuit of intellectual ideas people condemn any use of language as egotistically superfluous. If any questions exists concerning my meaning or intent I will gladly clarify, but attacks on my word choice seem petty and ignorant. I spend most of my time in OTD where I am more than willing to adjust my vernacular to commune with you on a different level.
OK, let's examine your post here; after all, that's what you're asking for.
My first reaction to your OP was exactly as Icelander stated. Your vocabulary is not appropriate for such a discussion and it uses big words that are superfluous and makes your writing stilted and hard to discern your meaning from it.
For example, you use "intellectual ideas." What other ideas would you be talking about. Ideas are, by their nature, "Intellectual."
And you say "I spend most of my time in OTD where I am more than willing to adjust my vernacular to commune with you on a different level.
Far better to adjust your Writing (you don't have "a vernacular" (you shouldn't use words that you don't know the meaning of as you have here; doing so merely exposes you as a poseur) and express your ideas clearly in THE vernacular.
As to the 'petty" nature of the remarks, your stilted writing makes it hard to take you serious. I've noticed that people who dont take someone seriously tend to offer replies that you would consider "petty."
And here you are, blaming others for not taking you seriously when in fact, the fault, Dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but ourselves...
We are not to blame for your lack of clarity, it is your fault. Whining about other not taking you seriously is seriously weak sauce.
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KafkasDog said: "fancy words" come from "book learnin'".
In that case, you would benefit from some remedial courses in English composition.
When someones first contribution to a thread i started is simply a repeat of a post which attacks me instead of my statement I perhaps too quick to dismiss that person as "petty", though maybe i am applying rules of civility which have no place on the Internet. The fact remains that with neither of us knowing each other or having communicated my instinct towards someone who feels the need to to pointlessly dismiss my idea with such prejudice makes me question all further contributions they offer, much less lack interest in responding to any valid points which they may stumble upon. As to my need for furthering my remedial education, (another insult which marks your "irl" character as probably none too pleasant), I can only respond with a shrug, though of course I continue to enjoy learning.
Towards your critique I will say briefly, that simply stating my word choice as inappropriate given the topic seems short minded and simple given the nebulous quality inherent in any discussion of beauty, unless you have a definition which can represent it with a more mathematical exactitude.
Finally, if nothing else, I am happy to have brought you and ice together in common cause.
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Revok]
#17589477 - 01/22/13 09:58 AM (11 years, 26 days ago) |
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When someones first contribution to a thread i started is simply a repeat of a post which attacks me instead of my statement
Really? Here's my first response to your thread.
"Obtuse is such a cool word."
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Icelander]
#17589490 - 01/22/13 10:03 AM (11 years, 26 days ago) |
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Ice, that response was for Rool as evidence by the initial quote and the reference of repetition. Also, good morning.
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Revok]
#17589848 - 01/22/13 11:37 AM (11 years, 26 days ago) |
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And good morning to you, KafkasDog.
Let me ask you, before we go further, is English your native tongue? IF not, I apologize for mistaking it to be so.
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Revok]
#17589899 - 01/22/13 11:48 AM (11 years, 26 days ago) |
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KafkasDog said: Ice, that response was for Rool as evidence by the initial quote and the reference of repetition. Also, good morning.
Oh sorry, I usually assume all negative comments are directed at me. 
Good morning to you.
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Re: Is it fair to say the ideal of natural beauty... [Re: Revok]
#17592367 - 01/22/13 07:01 PM (11 years, 26 days ago) |
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Hello there, KafkasDog,
I had posted a long rebuttal to you last post, KD, but as I lay in bed last night, just before starting to examine the insides of my eyelids, I realized that my criticisms of your writing style, however legitimate, were off-topic and were making no contributions to the thread anyway. Ergo, I deleted that and substituted this apology.
I apologize, and have deleted that rebuttal. You have both my apology and the last word. I also apologize for causing you to feel that I was attacking you. I was not, I was criticizing your writing style, and that was out of line on my part.
I hope there are no hard feelings!
Edited by Rool Kat (01/23/13 06:47 AM)
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