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The Real Stupid Three Stooges
#1758896 - 07/29/03 06:25 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Please forward these images to Bill O'Reilly and To the Hannity and Combs (more like Abbott and Costello, if you asked me) Fox news network. I would appreciate it greatly if all would say I am the one who does these shirts. I am fighting My country's Government. mj mj
Edited by mjshroomer (07/29/03 06:33 AM)
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1758899 - 07/29/03 06:27 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I cant see any images?!
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1758945 - 07/29/03 06:45 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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what's your point?
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
#1761467 - 07/29/03 11:25 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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My Point is that I hate their fucking guts and everything they stand for. ANd they really are stupid or no one would be aware that they even existed.
Thats my point.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1761471 - 07/29/03 11:25 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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ANd all three are known mas murderers.
ANd Bush likes it in the ass
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1762016 - 07/30/03 05:27 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think you're self-destructing.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
#1762049 - 07/30/03 06:25 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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ณด ณ ฟก รืดรืระ ยนไพ นด หำสดขกำหะพีแ ณ ไนสก สนไ "ฟห้รืเนื ฏใฉใ พรเ นดด ทฟยใ
If I had the power of self-destruck then I would blow fucking Washington D.C. right off the face of the Earth.
That is how I feel and have felt all of my life. I hope they all die from Al Quida int he White house to the congress and all all of the fucking policticians , prosecuting D.A.s and Attorneys and journalists.
That is the whole fucking problem with America.
I have never voted in my life and I have gotten along fine without any of their shit.
Besides that I doubt they woud even have yo over to their house for lunch. And I would never again follow any of them into their battles because their wars are not mine.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1762059 - 07/30/03 06:41 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I had the power of self-destruck then I would blow fucking Washington D.C. right off the face of the Earth.
Then you'd kill all of our homeless people in the area, how insensitive of you. But you would be gone so i'll have to think aboot it. Quote:
That is how I feel and have felt all of my life. I hope they all die from Al Quida int he White house to the congress and all all of the fucking policticians , prosecuting D.A.s and Attorneys and journalists.
wow, you are filled with hate. Why not throw in some pregnant women, puppies and a newborn child for shits and giggles? Quote:
I have never voted in my life and I have gotten along fine without any of their shit.
then why do you appear to be having a melt-down? Not too stable, i'd say. Quote:
Besides that I doubt they woud even have yo over to their house for lunch.
and what makes you think i would want to have lunch with them, i can afford my own. Quote:
And I would never again follow any of them into their battles because their wars are not mine.
wow, talk aboot jumping around on topics. I'd say you should concentrate on one first, then when you're done saying silly things, move on to the next one. Peace
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges *DELETED* [Re: Innvertigo]
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: shakta]
#1762122 - 07/30/03 07:42 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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MAN, for a sec i thought you were replying to me.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
#1762125 - 07/30/03 07:45 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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He's a user of quick reply. I sure wish they'd do away with that.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1762138 - 07/30/03 07:58 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Damn it. I am sorry. I am trying to quit using it. EDIT: I fixed it!
Edited by shakta (07/30/03 08:03 AM)
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: shakta]
#1762143 - 07/30/03 08:00 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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It annoys me to Luvvie!
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1762145 - 07/30/03 08:01 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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How about you just stay in Thailand forever if you hate everyone here so much? You are obviously a hate filled person, and my opinion of you has just dropped off the scale. You are a totally self-rightous prick. What exactly would sending these stupid images to anyone accomplish? Why should you be given credit for anything?
Judging from your website and your posts here you think a lot more highly of yourself than maybe you should. Anyone that wishes death on an entire city, is a fucking nitwit. I hope you never step foot back in this country. We don't need people like you. I can appreciate both sides of the political spectrum in general, and believe they both have the rights to speak their mind. You on the other hand are just a bitter old man.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: shakta]
#1762163 - 07/30/03 08:11 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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shakta said: Damn it. I am sorry. I am trying to quit using it.
EDIT: I fixed it!
Try harder damn you!
Do make us beat you with a one pound sack with a rip and with two pounds of shit stuffed into it.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: GazzBut]
#1762164 - 07/30/03 08:12 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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GazzBut said: It annoys me to Luvvie!
I'm not sure who deserves the more severe beating.
He / she who created it, or he / she who uses it.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: shakta]
#1762169 - 07/30/03 08:13 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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i've got a bag full of nickles with your name on it my man.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1762172 - 07/30/03 08:15 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have never voted in my life and I have gotten along fine without any of their shit.
...............Then shut the fuck up!,and yes, you enjoy "their shit"which includes your freedom to run around the world looking for psychadelic fungi and say the inarticulate angry crap which just blew across the internet.Even if I agree that we are being led by idiots,there are far better ways of making that opinion known than ranting to the people on an internet forum.Voting comes to mind.You might try it instead of filling our morning with such drivel. BTW after much research I have yet to find ANY reference to sclerotia in wild semillanceata,or any wild sclerotia for that matter. MJ what's the problem?You made the claim and have never produced anything to back it up but a picture of a flask of myc.Damn man get it together dude! WR
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: whiterasta]
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there are far better ways of making that opinion known than ranting to the people on an internet forum.Voting comes to mind.
Now dats some funny shit!
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1762182 - 07/30/03 08:19 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just make sure you pasteurize the poo first. Then I could make use of it later.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1762187 - 07/30/03 08:20 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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and in case you haven't noticed, this forum has been taken over by these conservatives, so you won't get a lot of sympathy here. but thanks for sharing. I actually liked that pic.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: infidelGOD]
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infidelGOD said: and in case you haven't noticed, this forum has been taken over by these conservatives, so you won't get a lot of sympathy here. but thanks for sharing. I actually liked that pic.
Please. There are way more libbies here than conservatives generally. Anyway, the pictures are fine. I disagree with what they say, but that does not matter. MJ's rant about wishing death on DC is what got to me.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: shakta]
#1762215 - 07/30/03 08:38 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think he was wishing death on everyone in DC, probably just the politicians and the whole system that he hates so much. you shouldn't take it literally.
and this forum HAS been taken over by conservatives. not saying its good or bad, just stating a fact.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: infidelGOD]
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and this forum HAS been taken over by conservatives. not saying its good or bad, just stating a fact.
there's no fact about it. The libbies out number the right probably 10 to 1 if not more. It's just that the right doesn't sit back and accept what is posted on this site.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: infidelGOD]
#1762224 - 07/30/03 08:44 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Look defend it if you want. Anyone that wishes for terrorist attacks on anyone in this country can go fuck themselves. As far as cons taking over goes, you are crazy. There are three or four regular posters that I would consider conservative, or at least not liberal, while the rest are libbies.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: shakta]
#1762239 - 07/30/03 08:53 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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it has nothing to do with the number of libbies vs. the number of conservatives. the number of posts would be a better indicator. and it doesn't help that most of the "libbies" are from Canada or the UK, leading the charge from the rear. but nevermind that. it's just a suffocating atmosphere in here. this thread is a perfect example, you guys jumped on it pretty fast. hey I'm not complaining or anything. I guess this place accurately represents the mood in the country right now...
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: infidelGOD]
#1762242 - 07/30/03 08:59 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey I'm not complaining or anything. I guess this place accurately represents the mood in the country right now...
I know you're not arguing (neither am i) but i'm surprised how many let this kind of stupid shit go without a comment. I'm almost certain that noone on the right wants to destroy any city no matter WHO is inside of it. It would be refreshing for a change if a libbie would talk down this kind of stupidity.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: infidelGOD]
#1762246 - 07/30/03 09:01 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude I love the pic.But anyone who goes of on a rant like that then proudly proclaims they do not vote on the issues they are bitching about deserves a thrashing by libs and cons. IF YOU DON'T VOTE SHUT THE FUCK UP,IF YOU DON'T VOTE YOU HAVE NO STAND ON ANYTHING EXCEPT CHILDISH LACK OF PARTICIPATION.IF YOU DON'T VOTE YOU ARE NOT LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE OR EVEN INDEPENDENT,YOU ARE JUST CATTLE TAKING WHATEVER THE VOTERS GIVE YOU. WR
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: infidelGOD]
#1762247 - 07/30/03 09:02 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm using quick reply right now. THE WORLD IS ENDING!!!!!!!
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: infidelGOD]
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infidelGOD said: and in case you haven't noticed, this forum has been taken over by these conservatives, so you won't get a lot of sympathy here. but thanks for sharing. I actually liked that pic.
Yeah.... and the media too!
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
#1762256 - 07/30/03 09:09 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm almost certain that noone on the right wants to destroy any city no matter WHO is inside of it
unless it's Baghdad
and yeah it's pretty dumb to say you want to blow up DC. no one is arguing that. to be fair though, he probably has no clue how much the country has changed since 9/11. the same goes for all the libbies in Canada telling us what to do. they have no idea. but we shouldn't dismiss them outright either. we have to remember that the world didn't change on that day. we changed.
and maybe someday we could be the carefree peaceful people that we once were. (I know I know. just silly liberal talk )
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babytripster said: I'm using quick reply right now. THE WORLD IS ENDING!!!!!!!
You quick reply usin' butt muncher!
How dare you post in our conservative forum!!
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: infidelGOD]
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How could he have no clue how much the country has changed? On a side note, I find it funny how his title is Typo Analyst, yet his post was full of bad grammer and spelling.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: shakta]
#1762271 - 07/30/03 09:16 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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*snif snif* You didn't use the quick reply! I'm so proud of you!
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: shakta]
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How could he have no clue how much the country has changed?
keep in mind there's a HUGE disconnect between America and the rest of the world right now. the state of the country right now - to us, it's just a natural reaction to being attacked. to them, they're thinking "America has gone crazy!". try to see both sides.
I see this great divide working in this very forum. completely reasonable people on both sides, thinking that the other side is completely crazy. quite fascinating actually.
btw, I'm not describing a simplistic us vs. them thing. it's obviously much more complicated but you get the point.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1762299 - 07/30/03 09:33 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Our shakta is growing up so fast...
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: infidelGOD]
#1762305 - 07/30/03 09:36 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Isn't MJ from here? Didn't he just leave for Thailand recently?
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: shakta]
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btw, I'm not describing a simplistic us vs. them thing. it's obviously much more complicated but you get the point.
the divide exists, but not necessarily along national boundries. and it's not a stark line between good/evil, us/them, black and white as Bush would have you believe. the world is many shades of gray. something he doesn't seem to appreciate very much. in his view, if you are against him personally, you are with the terrorists. He can't grasp the concept that someone can believe in America but have no faith in him. he makes no distinction (remember the flag picture?) between himself and America. This, in my view, makes him a very dangerous man.
of course the flip side is that some liberals see SO MANY shades of gray that they have trouble seeing anything BUT gray. so much so that they have trouble recognizing true evil when they see it.
and then there are those of us who see both sides. those are the guys pulling their hair out at all this!
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
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I would blow fucking Washington D.C. right off the face of the Earth.
Must hate black poeple.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: wingnutx]
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Such hate in this world...tsk tsk...
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
#1762580 - 07/30/03 11:56 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Innvertigo said: Such hate in this world...tsk tsk...
I hate hate.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: whiterasta]
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By voting you accept and contribute to a flawed system. Your vote doesn't matter anyway when theres millions of people, gee yah, i have a millionth of an opinion, when everyone else is watching the political commercials which sell one or two candidates...with no one representing my interests. What a crock of shit.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Azmodeus]
#1762739 - 07/30/03 12:42 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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By voting you accept and contribute to a flawed system
The system isn't falwed, the people are.
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Your vote doesn't matter anyway when theres millions of people, gee yah, i have a millionth of an opinion
if you don't vote then you have no opinion. That's why they have write in candidates. one millionth of an opinion means quite a bit, ask those in Florida...
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1762761 - 07/30/03 12:49 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Azmodeus]
#1763294 - 07/30/03 03:51 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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By voting you accept and contribute to a flawed system
By voting you exercise your LEGAL right and OBLIGATION as a citizen.Is the system flawed? Of course.By voting does this contribute to the flaws? I hardly think so. BTW The write in option contains much power and a complete political outsider can actually be written into office.But not with folks like you and MJ bitching long and loud but DOING not a damn thing and even pissing on those of us who ARE trying.I voted for Ralph Nader,If all you bitching loudmouth whiners would have also he would have carried a landslide(that gives some clue as to how many non-voting loudmouth whiners there are) If you are an American citizen and do not vote shut the fuck up.If you are so (lazy,disinterested,dissaffected,angry, whatever)you will not even make your official position on an issue than I say keep your opinion to your self because YOU are the reason we have George and all of his ilk.If you voted instead of sitting in front of a computer bitching that things are not the way you like,WE WOULD NOT HAVE GW AS PRESIDENT!!!! Yeah the "system" is totaly fucked,ever give any thought how it got here?Perhaps if more than 30 some percent of the eligable voters actually voted we would not have the nest of fucking vipers in charge that we have. A little bitter food for thought for all of you who like to bitch but not vote. WR
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: whiterasta]
#1763454 - 07/30/03 04:30 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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*clap clap clap*
Very good points, even though Bush is better than Gore. The sentiment is a good one.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: whiterasta]
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you get my vote for the "post of the day"....
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: whiterasta]
#1764107 - 07/30/03 08:43 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I made you a bumper sticker
-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1764171 - 07/30/03 09:00 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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HAhahahahAHAHAHA!!!
Some guy in a Greens shirt walked by me at a protest a few months ago, and I yelled "Hey green party, thanks for putting Bush in the whitehouse!". The look on his face was priceless.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: wingnutx]
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LOL Ya'll swallowed the whole load eh?Nader did it? Please do not be so naive.I saw it as choosing to be raped(Bush) or be raped then kissed(Gore)Or (novel thought coming......ready?) voting my conscience.Granted Nader is far from "presidential" but he is without doubt a more forthright and honest man than either GW or Algor.Isn't that the criteria we should pick leaders for? Rather than picking between only two weakassed wimps without a honest bone in their miserable bodies. I made the point that if more than 30% or so of eligable voters used their right perhaps we would have a quite different political landscape.Green,Pacific,Libertarian,you name some.Are they all just Wack?Is there more to life than the two flavors of vannilla politics we have now? Fuck, some folks are happy with Bush,some are unhappy that Algor isn't our figurehead.Either way slinging shit at folks who are willing to put up with the consequences of voting their conscience(ie;Bush if you really believe Algor had a chance without Nader"spoiling"things)Yeah, now I get GW, not Algor.....BFD!I don't want either one but I'll keep voting for what I believe in rather than give approval to men I have no respect or trust for.See if you can talk some of the other 70fucking% into voting instead of bitching about someone who is. Isn't it lame to cast blame on people who actualy voted?
Here's a bumpersticker: Don't blame me I didn't even vote so I obviously am happy with whatever the 30% of you who do decide. Yeah and this is a Quick reply cause if the shoe fits............ WR
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: whiterasta]
#1764383 - 07/30/03 10:00 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just wanted to piss him off. Worked like a charm, too
I voted for L. Neil Smith, Libertarian.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: whiterasta]
#1764754 - 07/31/03 12:39 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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And your fucking vote for Ralph Nader, whom I even have contributed money to on several ocasssions, cost AL Gore the election.
I will never give a friggin penny to Nader again for any cause he supports, including his running. He would have been better offr running to Mexico with Bill O'Reilly and Joe Scarbourough.
Any fool would have realized Nader only took votes away from the one who should have won (Gore) and he gave the elcetion to George Bush with his stupidity.
I am shocked to think that anyone would ever think a third party could win the presidential election. The republicans and dems spent almost five hundred million dollars to run for office. People starve but the government yuou all seem to support owns all of your asses.
Except mine, becasue I did not put a single one of them in a position of power to have that kind of power over what I do, say or think.
Its called the Declaration of Independence.
Our forefathers wrote it becasue theydid nto want someone else telling them how to live, what to wea, what to grow, smoke or eat or preach or pray. It meant free of. Rid of. I do not support them and I am sure they do not support me.
Why should I vote for a single individual who would support an unjust law (Pot prohibition, for one example) which would put me into a jail cell for something I believe in. I was always told in America you can believe in anything. Just don't do it.
To vote for a man who has by law to uphold said laws, thus gives him power over my life.
By not voting foer him. He cannot justify his use of that law against me.
If you vote for him and go to jail for shrooms or pot or acid or speed or even smack, X or whatever, just do not buitch about being busted because most likely you voted that fucker into office.
And a few more comments for all.
I do not enjoy having to post this trivial shit here, but Wait till all of you ave been around for 60 years and see what you think of the Government.
IF there is one left.
Do nto think that when thwe USA has 600,000,000 to one billion citizens it will not be much different than China, India, Pakistan or Bengladesh.
Control is the basis of the government who are suppose to govern. But no. They rule, and all of you who vote for them are their subjects. And they treat youall like shit wuith miinmum wages and they eat three good meals aday off of your tax dollars and then complain they need raises because they are not making enough to support their families.
mj That sucks. And Nader needs to wake up .
He gave Bush the presidency. He knew he would never win the moment he started to run.
Shit,
When my son owas ten years old he asked me if this is a democracy how come they tell us who to vote for.
me not voting has nothing to do with anyone winning or losing.
I belong to me. Not tot he USA or to Thailand or to Europe Or to UK. I am a citizen of the fucking earth. No one owns me or tells me what i can or cannot do. Rule of Law sucks because it is Justice (Just US) the politicians who all use to be prosecuting attorneys and their ilk.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1764971 - 07/31/03 02:38 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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First off, Baby Hitler, that was fucking hilarious. Priceless.
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By not voting foer him. He cannot justify his use of that law against me.
Try using that in court.
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USA has 600,000,000 to one billion citizens it will not be much different than China, India, Pakistan or Bengladesh.
According to this website, Pakistan only has a population of 146 500 000, as of 1999. link
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If you vote for him and go to jail for shrooms or pot or acid or speed or even smack, X or whatever, just do not buitch about being busted because most likely you voted that fucker into office.
But you get to bitch because you didn't vote? What? Do you lose your concept of "personal resposiblility" with age?
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Not tot he USA or to Thailand or to Europe Or to UK. I am a citizen of the fucking earth. No one owns me or tells me what i can or cannot do. Rule of Law sucks because it is Justice (Just US) the politicians who all use to be prosecuting attorneys and their ilk.
So then don't use any public facilities, since they are paid for by citizens, shouldn't they be the only ones that get to use it?
Just out of curiosity, were you drunk while making these posts?
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Skikid16]
#1765056 - 07/31/03 04:09 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Voting your concience is better than not voting at all, which is what I've always done. Voting third party does accomplish something, it shows the mainstream politicians that there is a market for your views, and that you will vote according to them. The more votes people like Nader get the more pressure you put on politicans to represent your views.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1765504 - 07/31/03 08:55 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Any fool would have realized Nader only took votes away from the one who should have won (Gore) and he gave the elcetion to George Bush with his stupidity.
Yes in MY stupidity I did some thing besides bitch,I voted,and how was it your lack of vote is not of issue?As I said if the 70% of you whiners voted and Algor lost this way you might have a weak arguement but since 30% of us are doing the work for the other 70% your lack of vote did FAR MORE HARM than if I would have voted for Mickey Mouse.
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I do not enjoy having to post this trivial shit here, but Wait till all of you ave been around for 60 years and see what you think of the Government.
I have been around 45 yrs and I think the government went out of control when they got 70% of eligible voters to quit voting(thanx guys)Remember that by not deciding you have decided.
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me not voting has nothing to do with anyone winning or losing
But it does give you the right to bitch at those who did because you don't like who won?
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. No one owns me or tells me what i can or cannot do
Save perhaps whomever provides the grants which carry you about to Thailand and such.And perhaps whatever university you may be affiliated with.And Oh BTW the government can take a dislike to your feild of study in a moments notice and then you will not be going anywhere.These things are from folks NOT voting rather than that some of us vote incorrectly.
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And your fucking vote for Ralph Nader, whom I even have contributed money to on several ocasssions, cost AL Gore the election
It was MY vote huh? Not all of you voteless voices? WE have an Important election coming,think about doing something this time besides bemoan the results and cursing those who didn't vote in a manner of your approval.Try voting your conscience, I am sure there is someone who represents some of your ideals,if not write someone in.Just do something besides blame the doers when you admit to doing nothing. WR
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: whiterasta]
#1765634 - 07/31/03 10:07 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Save perhaps whomever provides the grants which carry you about to Thailand and such.And perhaps whatever university you may be affiliated with.And Oh BTW the government can take a dislike to your feild of study in a moments notice and then you will not be going anywhere.These things are from folks NOT voting rather than that some of us vote incorrectly.
I pay for all of my own research for the past twenty-five years out of my own pocket from the sales of my mushroom books Magic Mushrooms of the Pacific Northwest." Which by the way is the oldest and longest selling field guide on magic mushroom id. And I make money from taking people with good minds on excursions into such hard to reach regions of the world. ANd I have been doing this for thirty years and am not afraid of the government. See i have a suicide death wish. I grew up believing in Patrick Henry who said 'give me liberty or give me death.'I would never allow someone to incarcerate me against my will not even for one day. SO if they ever did attempt to fuck me with court shit I would never give them that opportunity to do their will with me if it is against my will. These are things I have believed in all of my life and I am willing to die for my belief alot more than most of you who post polictical crap in this forum And a s for the Acaedemic side of my research, schiolars have always liked me becasue I say what i want to and they cannot say what they would like to say. Not having a BA or PH.D gives me a lot of leeway which they, the scholars cannot have inthe academic cirlcles. That is why many of thenm respect my work and support me and what I do. ANd besides, how I make my fucking money is none of any of any of your fucking business. Have a shroomy day. I won't be back to post here again in this forum.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1765685 - 07/31/03 10:32 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you cannot defend your position,then perhaps you should stick to trip tours and stay out of politics John.I mean no disrespect but if you are not willing to vote then you have no opinion.I congratulate your self funded research and entrepenurial endevors.I wish you nothing but success. But do not presume to admonish those who live every bit as free as you but accept the price and responsibility for this freedom. I look forward to your posts in the hunting forums. But any further talk of how Nader "stole" the election from Bush I will answer the same way,If you did not vote......Shut the fuck up! WR Peace
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1765812 - 07/31/03 11:31 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi, I think that your posts have a valuable credence, and I appreciate you making them. I hear where you're coming from.
-Shade
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: MOTH]
#1766687 - 07/31/03 04:01 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Voting or not voting it makes no differance. If you vote then you endorse laws like the ones against marijuana and a bunch of other shit you disagree with, but have no alternative to vote for. If you don't, well you don't really have a say.....because you didn't vote for the shit that was running and therefore, made no say.
I say this system is wrong. Many would disagree, but i accept having to follow this society because i live in a city. But i will leave here soon, and go up north, and buy a property and live how i wish with very little interaction with other people, and government. After all.....all one can do is live true to themselves.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Azmodeus]
#1766823 - 07/31/03 04:39 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Voting third party may never get a candidate elected, but it does send a message.
-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1766834 - 07/31/03 04:42 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Voting third party may never get a candidate elected, but it does send a message.
Yup. Both Perot and Nader sent a message alright. The message was even though we stand zero chance of winning, we'll suck off enough votes to change the results. Great message.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Voting for the Gush / Bore ticket sends the message "You win, we give up.".
-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1767033 - 07/31/03 05:54 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I must disagree.
The message I think it sends is this....
While I like neither... I'll vote for the one least likely to fuck things up.
And I don't think we need to get into a major debate on which one would / could be that one.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: mjshroomer]
#1767903 - 07/31/03 11:49 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have a shroomy day. I won't be back to post here again in this forum. You'll be missed John. Don't let the right-wing arseholes overwhelming the board grind you down, anytime you feel like posting please do so. You make a very refreshing change from the Bush-munchers.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Xlea321]
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OMFG! You think this board is overwhelmed with right-wing arseholes?
Stop trying to crucify yourself, you'll never get that last nail in without some help. MJ is a grown man, if he can't handle being treated like one then we and he all miss out.
But sometimes that's just how it is.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Voting for the Gush / Bore ticket sends the message "You win, we give up.".
Exactly. A vote for either is a vote for the same puppet master!
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: GazzBut]
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Voting for the Gush / Bore ticket sends the message "You win, we give up.".
Exactly. A vote for either is a vote for the same puppet master!
As was a vote for neither.
If you didn't vote, you got one of the two. If you voted third party, you got one of the two.
At least by voting for one of those two, you were able to pick the lesser of two evils. (and he won by the way)
It's sad that we have to choose that way, but it's a reality.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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That's only true if you look at an election as an event isolated from the continuity of time.
-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1768485 - 08/01/03 05:52 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ummmmm...... OK?
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1768492 - 08/01/03 06:07 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not voting is a vote for regime change! When nobody votes then they will have to do some serious thinking.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: GazzBut]
#1768501 - 08/01/03 06:15 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gosh.... what a great idea. Then a single voter can decide who our elected officials are. That single voter could be me.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: GazzBut]
#1768559 - 08/01/03 07:05 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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When nobody votes then they will have to do some serious thinking.
Bush could vote for himself and win the election....nice plan!!
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1768581 - 08/01/03 07:17 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've seen some statements expressed here that I believe are incorrect.
It is not an obligation to vote (I know it wasn't you who made this statement, lds). It is, however, foolish in the extreme to not vote.
Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is an incorrect strategy because it perpetuates the existing dominance of the Republicrats.
Lds states that if there is ever a Libertarian candidate with a realistic chance of winning, he will vote for him/her. This strategy ignores the fact that unless increasing numbers of people start voting Libertarian, such a victory will never occur. It is unrealistic to believe the votes for Libertarians can jump from 2% of the vote to 40% or whatever in a single election. It is not unrealistic to believe such numbers could go from 2% to 6% to 18% to 35% in a series of elections.
The thing is, the "lesser of two evils" strategy is inherently self-perpetuating. It cannot be otherwise.
I am not an American, therefore I will never vote in an American election. But if I were, I would always vote Libertarian, at all levels of government. If all those who profess to hold Libertarian views were to do the same, the percentage of votes cast for Libertarians could double or triple or even more in a single election. And you had better believe that a block of voters as large as even a mere 6 or 8 per cent would make an impact on the polices of the Reps (and maybe even some Dems).
Most races are close enough that no one (I mean no one) can afford to ignore an 8% chunk. So even if the Libertarian candidate were to lose, the other candidates would alter their positions for the next election in the hopes of snapping up that chunk.
And that can't be a bad thing.
pinky
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Phred]
#1768598 - 08/01/03 07:27 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great post man. That makes a lot of sense.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Phred]
#1768662 - 08/01/03 08:00 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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It should make you happy to know that i will voting third party this election. I've always said the same thing as LDS aboot if they had a REAL chance of winning i'd vote, but it seems i'm not happy with the winner either way. It really saddens me that the line between the Libbies and the Republicrates seems to be dissappearing. BUT, i would never vote for the Green party...they're full of a whole lot of wack jobs.
-------------------- America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
Edited by Innvertigo (08/01/03 08:04 AM)
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Phred]
#1768676 - 08/01/03 08:13 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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pinky, while I understand your point of view, I can't agree.
Had enough Libertarians voted for their party's candidate, Gore would be president.
To me, that would have been a far worse outcome than we wound up with.
If the election isn't as close as this last one, and the lesser of two evils will win anyway, then I'd go ahead and vote my concience.
In a close election, I'll do as I did in Bush v. Gore.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1768684 - 08/01/03 08:19 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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it's a tough situation to be in, i understand where you're coming from but i also know how bad i feel when those that i vote for dissappoint me.
-------------------- America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
#1768691 - 08/01/03 08:22 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Innvertigo said: it's a tough situation to be in, i understand where you're coming from but i also know how bad i feel when those that i vote for dissappoint me.
But would you feel worse if Gore was president?
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1768723 - 08/01/03 08:47 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ofcourse i would. ...that's where my problem lies.
-------------------- America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
Edited by Innvertigo (08/01/03 08:55 AM)
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
#1768738 - 08/01/03 08:58 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Luvvie: But would you feel worse if Gore was president?
Inny: Ofcourse i would.
Everybody say ahhhhh!
-------------------- Always Smi2le
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: GazzBut]
#1768745 - 08/01/03 09:00 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ahhhhhhh? What's that supposed to mean?
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
#1768750 - 08/01/03 09:03 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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The love affair continues...Its sweet! Almost touching in a sick n twisted way...Dont mind me Im bored at work. Carry on flirting!
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: GazzBut]
#1768759 - 08/01/03 09:10 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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uh huh...
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: GazzBut]
#1768797 - 08/01/03 09:22 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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So any time two people agree.... to you it implies something?
What is it that it implies?
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1768827 - 08/01/03 09:35 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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That you are both right-wingers?
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1768829 - 08/01/03 09:37 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I could afford to vote 3rd party with impunity because AZ was all sewn up for Bush.
If it was any sort of real contest I would have held my nose and voted for Bush. I very down on him at the time, but he's exceeded my expectations in quite a few ways.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: wingnutx]
#1768975 - 08/01/03 10:59 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I could afford to vote 3rd party with impunity because AZ was all sewn up for Bush.
Exactly! You were able to make your statement without suffering the consequences.
The state I live in went for Bush by just 7000 votes. To me that's too close.
And then there's the perfect example of Florida. Had 600 more voted for Gore, we'd have had to suffer with that jackass as pres.
So while voting your concience is great, a practical vote strikes me as far better.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1768998 - 08/01/03 11:05 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's a time and a place for a protest without cutting off your nose to spite your face. I really wish there were a "SERIOUS" contender from a third party. Even the Green party doesn't get involved until almost time for the election. While i would probably NEVER vote for a Green candidate i would like to hear what he/she has to say, who knows what could happen. These third parties need to quite blaming the media and others for their lack of exposure. Get out there and go on the campaign trail. BUY time, it's the name of the game unfortunatly but many don't want to do it. If the situation presented itself where i was faced with equally bad candidates i would definitly go 3rd party not caring if a dem or rep won.
-------------------- America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
#1769002 - 08/01/03 11:07 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is why many libertarians just register as republicans and join the RLC. I've been considering that myself.
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: wingnutx]
#1769012 - 08/01/03 11:10 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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if the plan was to inundate the Republican party with libertarians i would be all for it. But the spineless republicrates that are there right now are pretty much useless.
-------------------- America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Innvertigo]
#1770252 - 08/01/03 04:09 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think that if significant numbers of people start voting libertarian that it will force the republicrats to become more "liberpublicratarian".
-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
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Re: The Real Stupid Three Stooges [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1770399 - 08/01/03 04:44 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree, "lesser of two evils" won't ignore 10% of the votes, they will do something to snag those votes. PSM has the right idea.
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