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Kalypto
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Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know
#17584739 - 01/21/13 12:20 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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^ Just looking for informations and such
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17584752 - 01/21/13 12:22 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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Ummm... be clean?
IDK what you're looking for here. Obviously tips and tricks, but for which stage? You gotta be more specific.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: 36fuckin5]
#17584777 - 01/21/13 12:24 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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All stages Any information that you have found that made growing it easier that you feel should be shared.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17584882 - 01/21/13 12:41 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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you could grow truffles
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Clever_You] 1
#17584904 - 01/21/13 12:44 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: PussyFart]
#17585091 - 01/21/13 01:19 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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Clever_You said: you could grow truffles


There is a huge thread called "easier than cubes" that has tons of good info on sclerotia development.
Edited by wire5 (01/21/13 01:19 PM)
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: PussyFart]
#17585544 - 01/21/13 02:42 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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Already read that 
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17585621 - 01/21/13 02:57 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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most grow them off rye grass seed.
ive been growing mine on rye berries.
its super simple wait 4-6 mounths till there potent
u could harvest as soon a 2 mounths but i wouldnt
just be sterile and have alot of patients thats the hard part.
Good Luck  
also grain to grain trnsfer is ur best friend.
if u gonna do grain to grain shake them like u usally would.
u dont want any stones to grow for ur g2g ones.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: King Reishi]
#17585669 - 01/21/13 03:04 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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King Reishi said: u dont want any stones to grow for ur g2g ones.
you can use stones to inoc your jars, stones are fine.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: cmmenke]
#17585713 - 01/21/13 03:11 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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King Reishi said: u dont want any stones to grow for ur g2g ones.
you can use stones to inoc your jars, stones are fine.
True, they should turn back into mycellium.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: PussyFart]
#17585937 - 01/21/13 03:54 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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No personal experience of finished product to share, but scouring the Search on this site has given me a great plan for my ATL #7 spores...
I'm going on a two month vacation soon. A month ago I inoculated a Pint jar and it is 70% done (slow colonizing because my grains were way too dry). I'm going to G2G that Pint to as many Quart jars as possible. (soon going to innoc more pints so I can G2G those to spawn bags, and tons of jars like 100)
When I come back i'll check um out and maybe wait a month or two more! but so easy!
then the harder part would be fruiting these jars out after 2-4 months (after collecting sclerotia yield). I'm going to follow the Sclerotia species fruiting teks on this site and get some mushies from them as well.
At the same time I inoculated that master pint jar, I also germinated spores on agar dishes to try to isolate. I did a few transfers with the mycelium but the agar started to dry up and curl in the dish because I POURED MY AGAR TOO THIN! (still quite the noob) My goal was to wait and see if any Stones produce on agar, then select that stone and i have a nice isolate of a sclerotia forming ATL. (same can be done apparently if one fruits a mushie in a petri, select that for a good above ground fruiting species.
Im almost more exited about these sclerotia species than cubes because of how easy it is in the beginning to get a massive stone yeild. (did some rough estimates of people's harvest on this site and it looks like 50-100+ grams of Stones per Quart jar.. some one correct me if im wrong!)
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: PussyFart]
#17585945 - 01/21/13 03:57 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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Thats so Cool! yeah i plan to have about 150-300 jars going
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17587326 - 01/21/13 08:30 PM (11 years, 8 days ago) |
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i mean u dont want to transfer 4 mounth jars mycellium in a new jar u want the fresher mycellium
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: King Reishi]
#17589533 - 01/22/13 10:16 AM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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Why should i use that for g2g like yeah it will be weaker cause it wont have as much nutrients but as soon as you put it in a new jar new nutrients right
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17589924 - 01/22/13 11:54 AM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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It doesn't matter about the nutrients. After 4 months, your myc isn't gonna be nearly as vigorous and will likely succumb to contams.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: 36fuckin5]
#17589981 - 01/22/13 12:12 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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g2g= more stones
or dnt i dont really care
just thought id share mt opinion
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: King Reishi]
#17590541 - 01/22/13 01:51 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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What do you mean more stones? So would i need to inoculate with stones or continue buying spores or use agar tek to keep it going?
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17591774 - 01/22/13 05:26 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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stones r the sclirotia.
i bought 1 syringe but i keep doing g2g before they start prducing stones
then the new jars i get i let those consolidate and make stones.
u can keep some back up spawn so u can keep doing g2g
or i was thinking about taking a clone of one of the stones on an agar petri dish.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: King Reishi]
#17592005 - 01/22/13 06:03 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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Love the stones
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Luther]
#17592069 - 01/22/13 06:14 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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me to
i think they should be legal
then everyone would be alot nicer to each other
i would put them in all my meals.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: King Reishi]
#17592345 - 01/22/13 06:57 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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i would put them in all my meals.

Im commin over for dinner. Ill bring the Marsala you supply the truffle shavings.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: MoGrow] 1
#17592412 - 01/22/13 07:08 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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I like rye.
Plus if you eat a kernel of rye accidentally you won't mind that much. Though I find it comes off really easily.
I used a little coffee (weak) when I boiled the rye to prepare it for the pressure cooker (and of course a little gypsum).
Here is some ATL#7 at three weeks:

Here they are just a couple weeks later at five weeks:

Make sure they get some nice indirect lighting. They seem to like that. Good luck with your grow!
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Queen of Kings]
#17592753 - 01/22/13 07:59 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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i misunderstood what you meant by g2g= more stones
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17593152 - 01/22/13 09:02 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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Ive been reading on sclerotia teks.
From what I read the simplest recipe for sclerotia forming species is:
Rye berries soaked in coffee and gypsum.
I actually use this for all my species as of recent, and so far everything seems to really like it.
I take a coffee filter, and put about a cup of coffee in it, and use a twist tie to tie it off. Then i throw it in for the soak, and leave it until the end of the boil.
I havnt tried it yet, but methinks instant coffee would probably work well in this application.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: 36fuckin5]
#17593655 - 01/22/13 09:59 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: IDK what you're looking for here. Obviously tips and tricks, but for which stage? You gotta be more specific.
Isn't there only one stage for growing truffles?
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17594209 - 01/22/13 11:28 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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Thats what i though haha unless he thinks preparing rye counts but i dont
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17594248 - 01/22/13 11:36 PM (11 years, 7 days ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: IDK what you're looking for here. Obviously tips and tricks, but for which stage? You gotta be more specific.
Isn't there only one stage for growing truffles?
Prepping grain (yes, it counts), inoculation, colonization, bulk substrate choice, fruiting parameters, proper harvesting, etc. There are as many steps as in growing any other species.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: 36fuckin5]
#17594696 - 01/23/13 01:45 AM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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you really think instant coffee works thats all i got
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: King Reishi]
#17595060 - 01/23/13 06:10 AM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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King Reishi said: you really think instant coffee works thats all i got
I dont see why not. Its only freeze dried. I have not used it yet, so I cannot back this with experience.
Some people fruit their truffles. In my previous post, I linked to a guy who did just that. He then harvested his truffles at and shrooms at the same time.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: 36fuckin5]
#17595369 - 01/23/13 08:58 AM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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36fuckin5 said:
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36fuckin5 said: IDK what you're looking for here. Obviously tips and tricks, but for which stage? You gotta be more specific.
Isn't there only one stage for growing truffles?
Prepping grain (yes, it counts), inoculation, colonization, bulk substrate choice, fruiting parameters, proper harvesting, etc. There are as many steps as in growing any other species.
LOL there are no fruiting parameters they just sit in jars same as colonization There is no bulk substrate just rye which is not a bulk substrate
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17595405 - 01/23/13 09:13 AM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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@Kalypto When you get done picking through the spawn to get truffles, you should also make an attempt at fruiting some as well so you can get some prints. And once you have a sufficient amount of prints, you can start donating some to the community like me. Bc i was gonna cultivate some stones but i got a contaminated print from some guy up here and my plans were crushed. Good luck on your ventures. Make sure to run a test trial on your LC or agar first before going full scale.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17595410 - 01/23/13 09:14 AM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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Kalypto said: LOL there are no fruiting parameters they just sit in jars same as colonization There is no bulk substrate just rye which is not a bulk substrate
what? you are grossly misinformed.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: justinpierceec]
#17595413 - 01/23/13 09:14 AM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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I suggest just spawing to bulk, leave the sclerotia, and fruit. It not only reduces contamination risk, but also lets the sclerotia grow a little larger.... your best shrooms will actually sprout from the sclerotia.
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Edited by Sillyputty67 (01/23/13 09:17 AM)
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Sillyputty67]
#17595883 - 01/23/13 11:25 AM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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You g2g to another set of jars Yes I guess you can consider rye a bulk substrate at this point
And i do not want to fruit them the whole point for me to do this is that it just sits in jars and does its work i can g2g and get jars ready all day with ease
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Sillyputty67]
#17595900 - 01/23/13 11:29 AM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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I haven't grown them yet but plan to very soon (just ordered my syringe), so I've been reading. Everything I've read says that you pretty much just inoculate the grain and then set the jars/bags aside until it's time to harvest. Is that incorrect?
I'm planning to do agar, so I'm not worried about growing them out to print.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17595916 - 01/23/13 11:33 AM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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Kalypto said: LOL there are no fruiting parameters they just sit in jars same as colonization There is no bulk substrate just rye which is not a bulk substrate

Fucking noobs...
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17595938 - 01/23/13 11:38 AM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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Just letting them sit in the jars is what I'm doing. I knocked up rye berries with MS and am going to take the biggest stone and try agar. There is a thread called easier than cubes that basically covers everything possible. It about 80 pages long.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: GTI337]
#17596249 - 01/23/13 12:45 PM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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Maybe instead of calling me a noob educate me.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17596284 - 01/23/13 12:50 PM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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screlotia make truffles, but can also fruit from my understanding they make the stones to store nutrients as a reserve, and occasionally fruit as well.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: boneynerd]
#17596355 - 01/23/13 01:04 PM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: fatchillin]
#17597032 - 01/23/13 02:50 PM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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But fruiting means less nutirents for truffles
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: Kalypto]
#17597043 - 01/23/13 02:53 PM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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not if you pick the stones out before fruiting. Also you want to fruit so you can make a spore print because these varieties are scarce and can be hard to locate.
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Re: Starting to grow screlotia... any tips tricks or knowledge i should know [Re: GTI337]
#17597062 - 01/23/13 02:56 PM (11 years, 6 days ago) |
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I guess i could fruit a small tub but i would rather fruit other species
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