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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace
    #1758214 - 07/29/03 02:10 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

..........is all we'll ever be.


why do some people fear death so much? i meeeeaaan reeeallly. You cant ever experience death, because in order to die, your senses must be shut down. So why fear something you will never truly meet?

its like....your driving to disneyland but you dont have enough gas, so you'll never make it there. But you're still thinking:

"aw shit, whats it gonna be like? will it be fun? will it be scary?"

but you're never going to disneyland brother, you're never gonna be able to hug mickey mouse.





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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1758224 - 07/29/03 02:13 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I hear there are big lines to hug micky mouse too.. those fucking corporations are always lying with their mass media campaigns.


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Dogomush]
    #1758234 - 07/29/03 02:16 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think death should feared. Although, I think their is a consiousness beyond are ordinary sense perception, especially because their are OBe's and NDE's.


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1758243 - 07/29/03 02:19 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I think death should be feared. Why not? Fear of death keeps your blood red.


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1758247 - 07/29/03 02:20 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, but there isnt ego consciousness after death. and your ego is your memories, so when your senses die, your ego dies and your memories evapourate. So, the living consciousness cant really pass on its experiences to the after-death consciousness. You know...there is no line of communication. But...im not really an expert on this type of thing...but! my girlfriend did have the following dream last night:

she died, and after she died she floated into outerspace and saw earth from an external point of view then thought: "oh yeah, i remember this".



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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1758248 - 07/29/03 02:21 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

profound, my brotha!


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1758250 - 07/29/03 02:22 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

dogomush: "I think death should be feared. Why not? Fear of death keeps your blood red."

thats typical brainwashed american bullshit, you should read AdBusters and watch less TV.




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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1758258 - 07/29/03 02:25 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Earth_Droid said:
I think their is a consiousness beyond are ordinary sense perception, especially because their are OBe's and NDE's.




Both of which can be induced by ketamine.


When your brain is at risk of death, it releases endopsychosins, which are neuropharmacologically identical to ketamine.


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Pyronate]
    #1758265 - 07/29/03 02:28 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeeaahh...ketemine maan, it will make you experience..the unexperiencable

hehehe...wohhhhhh! brain-fry! bssszxxxxkkkkk!!!


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1758307 - 07/29/03 02:45 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Correct, you can't ever experience death as a human. There could still be a death experience to be had by some other form of consciousness, though.


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1758312 - 07/29/03 02:47 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a thought.

If you hold the view that death of our physical body involves the loss of our memories, identity, etc. and a merging with the overall consciousness, then would it not thus follow that we CAN experience something very like death through the induction of psychedelic ego loss?


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1758315 - 07/29/03 02:48 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Beyond the ego, their are higher states of awareness where the memories of past and future evolution can be observed, or you can become part of a universal mind, e.t.c.


Edited by Earth_Droid (07/29/03 03:44 AM)


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Pyronate]
    #1758317 - 07/29/03 02:48 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

no, because it is still sensory. It may be green and not red...but its still a colour.

death is black. no, its way beyond black, death is the absence of black.

you dig?

earth droid: sources?


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Edited by atomikfunksoldier (07/29/03 02:49 AM)


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1758344 - 07/29/03 02:55 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Check out www.deoxy.org and read eightfold model of consiousness. That explains lots of what I mean. And perhaps check Jung's description of archetypes.


Edited by Earth_Droid (07/29/03 02:56 AM)


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1758408 - 07/29/03 03:21 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know.. I've died like 400,000 times and I don't remember it ever going completely black.. except for nocturnal slumber. Consciousness is eternal. I know, sometimes I wished it would just go black, but it never did... only for short periods of time, during cogitative state..or sleep.. you know.. where you ponder your past/current lives and their experiences before returning back to physical plane for MORE PHYSICAL LEARNING WOOO! But don't worry, it will all come back to you eventually, you'll remember.


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Pyronate]
    #1758427 - 07/29/03 03:29 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I think the psychedelic ego death experience shows us death and rebirth in the form of projections into a human brain. The brain is after all still living and recording stuff during the experience.


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1758445 - 07/29/03 03:38 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The brain is a physical computer, it gets energy from the body. It is a processor for physical reality. Consciousness is the observer. Consciousness is in the form of spiritual energy. It is separate, yet integrated with the physical body during incarnation. Sometimes, the consciousness can wander away from the body, as in astral projection or oobe..or similarly, the 'ego death' experienced from a psychadelic experience. Memory exists with consciousness, not in the body. That is why you can leave your body and still retain full consciousness and memory. 'you' are your consciousness and memories, not your brain.


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Shroomism]
    #1758458 - 07/29/03 03:44 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Your brain holds your consiousness and memories though Shroomism.


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1758471 - 07/29/03 03:48 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

While you're focused in the physical realm, sure. But when you sleep?


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Re: a dog's skeleton floating in outerspace [Re: Shroomism]
    #1758500 - 07/29/03 04:02 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I think that your brain is connected to a sort of cosmic consiousness. And when you are asleep, this consiousness is responsable for where you go.


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