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OfflineRavinoff
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Double check to make sure everything is ok?
    #1757385 - 07/28/03 08:06 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, here's exactly what I'm going to do, please inform me if there's anything wrong...

Mix verm/brf/water in a ratio of 2:1:1

Put in glass cups with 3 layers of tin foil(the bottom 2 have innoculation holes)
Put in PC for an hour

Let cool for about 10 hours

Peel back the top layer of aluminum foil 1 hole at a time and quickly innoculate then tape back up, to reduce air exposure.

Once all holes have been innoculated in, and covered, poke a hole in the center with a screwdriver(that I will flame steralize) and quickly put some polyfill in it.

Tape up everything except the polyfill hole so I have an otherwise air tight seal

Keep in darkness 'till fully colonized

Once colonized, give about 10 hours of indirect sunlight a day untill fruiting

Take cake out once the veils brake on the mushrooms and harvest

Return cakes to glasses, fill with water for 10 hours, drain and wait for more fruits

Fill glass with water again after every fruit? or every other fruit? or whenever the cake looks dry?

Thanks ever so much for reading this and helping me out on my first grow attempt...

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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1757421 - 07/28/03 08:18 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Why didn't you just update your old post?
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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: MrSleep]
    #1757427 - 07/28/03 08:20 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

same. Sounds good,
Quote:

Once all holes have been innoculated in, and covered, poke a hole in the center with a screwdriver(that I will flame steralize) and quickly put some polyfill in it.



But why?

Edited by MycoCakeEater (07/28/03 08:20 PM)

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OfflineMrSleep
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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: MrSleep]
    #1757430 - 07/28/03 08:20 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

You should dunk/cold shock for 24 hours between flushes. And my friend says not to use polyfill, it'll dry out prolly. He's experienced similar scenarios before. Dunk/cold shock for 12 hours before birthing. So yes dunk/cold shock before every "fruit".
-Mr.Sleep

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OfflineRavinoff
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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: MrSleep]
    #1757458 - 07/28/03 08:26 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Oh yea, I'm doing invitro growth, so no birthing, and someone locked my other thread

Ok, well then I can't think of another way of letting the cakes breath, so I'll just make a completely airtight seal and see how it goes

Thanks for all your help mr sleep, one more thing, I can't cold shock it, dunking will be sufficient, right?

Edited by Ravinoff (07/28/03 08:28 PM)

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OfflineDank420
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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1757494 - 07/28/03 08:37 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Dunking in a atmosphere that is not cold could attract contams, try to make an ice box of some sort to chill the jars but not freeze them. Good luck.


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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? *DELETED* [Re: Dank420]
    #1757550 - 07/28/03 08:51 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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OfflineDank420
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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: MrSleep]
    #1757661 - 07/28/03 09:27 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting.


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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: Dank420]
    #1757703 - 07/28/03 09:37 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

u cant think of another way to let them breathe huh, how bout the way that everybody else who uses cakes does?. add urself a 1/2inche layer of str8 dry verm on the top to act as a filter, and then u already have the innoculation holes to let air in


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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: MykeOfile]
    #1757722 - 07/28/03 09:43 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

what's the verdict on this one? Will the verm layer protect from contams well enough? I'll put like 2 needle size holes in it...

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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1757759 - 07/28/03 09:53 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

thats what i did, just layer of verm on top of cakes, 4 holes, fabric tape...blamo, colonised jars.


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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: GregHimself]
    #1757772 - 07/28/03 09:55 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

frabric tape on what?

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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1757837 - 07/28/03 10:12 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Tvek Filters.

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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: Zwieback0]
    #1757844 - 07/28/03 10:14 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

fabric tape over the holes to allow SOME air transfer.


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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: GregHimself]
    #1757898 - 07/28/03 10:28 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Is fabric tape easily obtainable at convenient type stores?

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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1757924 - 07/28/03 10:36 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

>Put in glass cups with 3 layers of tin foil(the bottom 2 have innoculation holes)
No, they don?t, you make the holes with the syringe at the moment of inoculation.

>Once all holes have been innoculated in, and covered, poke a hole in
>the center with a screwdriver(that I will flame steralize) and quickly
>put some polyfill in it.

First, it?s inoculation, NOT innoculation. And sterilize, not steralize.
Second, you don?t need polyfill with PF jars.
Messing with polyfill at this moment is just screaming for contamination problems.

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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: Anno]
    #1758108 - 07/28/03 11:25 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

What shall I do for gas exchange? will fabric tape work well? Do I even need gas exchange?

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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1758119 - 07/28/03 11:29 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, you need gas exchange.

Again, the aluminum foil wrapped on the jar as described in the PF tek for Simple Minds will take care of the gas exchange.

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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1758120 - 07/28/03 11:29 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Dont even tape the holes fuck that, if you got a 1/2 inch dry verm layer on top you will be fine. I did 12 jars with no tape on the holes, and I had no contams and they colonized very quickly. Just leave the 4 hole son the top uncovered.

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Re: Double check to make sure everything is ok? [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1758127 - 07/28/03 11:32 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, sounds good dank, thanks

By the way, what size were your jars dank?

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