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Patlal said:
There's no way in hell Obama and Biden propositions will pass if it goes through congress. I think I heard that the prez just might have the authority to make it happen without congress or something? I doubt it but I read that somewhere. Probably a bullshit website.

But if it goes through congress, all the threads about these proposition will have been useless cause it just won't pass.

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those propositions arent bills, they're points to ponder while writing bills,
as we can already see some folks are trying to get their 'buy back' bills in
before the holiday rush

which holiday you ask? well, that would be Martin Luther King jr. day, an
interesting hing to consider as we creep up on this holiday that greatly
benefits only bank and government employees , MLK used to be a democrat
until the democrats running the county he lived in at the time refused to
issue him a gun permit after his house was firebombed, for some reason the
democrats of birmingham alabama didnt see attempts to kill him and his
family as a 'need' for a gun permit for a black man, yes, much like the
nazis the government officials had the ability to deem who was suitable to 
be a gun permit owner and as surprising as it may seem, Mr. Peaceful Protest
owned a great number of guns despite being turned down for a concealed carry
permit, a reporter covering kind described kings home as 'an arsenal'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-winkler/mlk-and-his-guns_b_810132.html

so on this upcoming MLK day, let's remeber the good doctor for the other
thing he should be known and respected for, the birth of the modern gun
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JoieDeVivre said:
The constitution mentions a well regulated militia.

The army is supposed to side with the populous, you wouldn't be fighting the army you'd be fighting the "government" and if the government wants you dead it has means well beyond any firearms.

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Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 8 - Powers of Congress

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

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Patlal said:
Is MKL day a special US super savings black friday thing for guns or something?

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Is MKL day a special US super savings black friday thing for guns or something?

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we'll probably see a few AR-15s and Ak47s given away with a new car purchase on MLK day

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I think 26 people being killed in one event is more pressing than guns being used non-lethally in robberies or petty crimes and I think those statistics are included in the general term of "gun violence."

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I ask again, do you really think that a crazy is any less capable of mass murder when using a pistol?

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Not less capable of murder but capable of less murder. With a pistol you can't take out as many people as with a higher capacity firearm.

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dont need a pistol or a rifle for killing loads of people, hundreds can be
killed in a second or  two at the mere push of a button, is this what you'd
prefer? it's certainly what you're asking for

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Pris I would also like to add that bombs are also illegal are they not? And do they not still get a hold of em?

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I ask again, do you really think that a crazy is any less capable of mass murder when using a pistol?

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Not less capable of murder but capable of less murder. With a pistol you can't take out as many people as with a higher capacity firearm.

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dont need a pistol or a rifle for killing loads of people, hundreds can be
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You can also modify some pistols to hold 20 rounds and be an automatic...

Pris that sounds ABSURD!

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I ask again, do you really think that a crazy is any less capable of mass murder when using a pistol?

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Not less capable of murder but capable of less murder. With a pistol you can't take out as many people as with a higher capacity firearm.

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dont need a pistol or a rifle for killing loads of people, hundreds can be
killed in a second or  two at the mere push of a button, is this what you'd
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Thousands of gun owners across America have had enough of the Obama administration’s attack on the Second Amendment – and they’re preparing to take their concerns to the capitols in at least 47 states this Saturday, Jan. 19, at 12 p.m.

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Patlal said:
How about you guys take arm against the government?

Defend your rights.

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