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Elvish
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DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys
#1749898 - 07/26/03 12:08 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has anyone experiemented with DIY 'dream machines' or other cheaply made hallucination inducing equipment? A list of possible ideas: ~ Two strobes set on alternating frequencies. ~A 'muscle stimulator' attached to the head. ~John Lilly's idea of placing your forehead against a mirror and slowly letting your eyes relax. I realize the mind is the ultimate trip toy...so I'd like to see us use our creative faculties to invent brain stimulators/relaxors that don't cost three hundred dollars. Any suggestions?
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Elvish
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Elvish]
#1750198 - 07/26/03 04:00 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okaaaay. The creative faculties are on vacation.
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Elvish
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Elvish]
#1750414 - 07/26/03 09:45 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has anyone heard of a 'Mind Machine' KIT? I'm thinking of something like the 'Dream Machine' Burroughs (?) or Biron Gyson(sp?) created. I can't force you guys to be creative and/or respond but it sure gets boring creating both sides of the conversation. so c'mon you slags, think!
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Elvish]
#1750529 - 07/26/03 11:17 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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Elvish
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Faaip_De_Oiad]
#1750574 - 07/26/03 11:39 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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LAUGHTER!!!!!!
A cheap and plentiful trip inducer! Thanks! anything else?
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Elvish]
#1750752 - 07/26/03 01:10 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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www.vusic.com + shpongle - tales of the inexpressible
www.deliplayer.com, download the player, then go to
http://sfx.paradogs.com/frames.html , and download her1.zip
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Noviseer]
#1751071 - 07/26/03 04:02 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hya!
I like to do what I call "Mirror Walking". I know its nothing special, but I like it. All You need is a mirror (not too small).
[Something Beautiful] can be anything which is up there - a beautiful ceiling, blue sky with nice white clouds etc. And The result is that You look to Your feet (like to see where You are walking), but You actually see what is above Your head. Pretty inversing toy. And You like walk on what is above You. (Sorry Space.) Very nice in forest indeed...
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: ivi]
#1751632 - 07/26/03 09:02 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's a really cool idea! I will try it
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Elvish]
#1751987 - 07/26/03 11:23 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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>Has anyone heard of a 'Mind Machine' KIT?
Yes i have built 2 of them one that hooks to the Computer and a standalone version. While they don't actualy make you trip it is fun. If you pm me and remind me i will post somemore info and any links and scymatics that i have.
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: L3D]
#1752771 - 07/27/03 10:50 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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That mirror walking sounds like a good idea! I guess you have to find a really wide open area to walk in first...i would forget i was looking at a mirror probably and walk into a wall.
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Elvish]
#1753796 - 07/27/03 06:32 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wouldn't advise doing the muscle stimulator thing.
The strobes, however, are a good idea. A strobe at the right rates can induce visionary states -- when you eyes are closed -- all by itself. If you can get a small strobe that's adjustable from 1 to 15 Hz or so, get it, or get a person you know who can deal with electronics to make one.
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: ivi]
#1755590 - 07/28/03 09:00 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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holy shit! that was coool, thanks alot for that idea, like i was walking on the ceiling, thought i was gonna walk into the ceiling fan, really plays with your mind, turning the mirror side 2 side while walking made a trippy effect as well.
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Sev]
#1755594 - 07/28/03 09:03 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have to small adjustable strobes. How would I go about creating a visionary state? It's only adjustable up to 10Hz though.
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: DrBonG]
#1755596 - 07/28/03 09:04 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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A dangerous and interesting mind trip is getting in a car accident. If you hurt yourself bad enough everything in the car crash slows waaaaay down. You see it in sloooooow motion. I dont recommend this.
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: LikwidDrawp]
#1756171 - 07/28/03 12:46 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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behind the looking glass...
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: cybrbeast]
#1758479 - 07/29/03 01:50 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
cybrbeast said: I have to small adjustable strobes. How would I go about creating a visionary state? It's only adjustable up to 10Hz though.
Put it in front of your face, close your eyes, and sit back. It kicks in slowly. It helps if you play soft, white noise over headphones -- or at least that's what I find.
You could probably modify it to blink faster, but that would require getting into the guts of it and attaching another capacitor somewhere. I don't advise doing this unless you have an idea what you're doing. But it would be worth it -- IMO, the 5-20 range is the best, especially if you have a dial you can twiddle to adjust it while it's going.
Oh, don't do this if you're prone to seizures. It could set one off.
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Sev]
#1760087 - 07/29/03 03:54 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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play myst, or warcraft 3 and go down to 3d mode at an angle. Its so much fun
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cybrbeast
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Sev]
#1762213 - 07/30/03 08:37 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know I'm not prone to seizures. Have been in plenty of strobe-lit places. Nah I'm not gonna break it open, don't have the knowledge. It is adjustable though. What will I see (too light to experiment now), some faint CEV's? Should I just play with the dial while I'm strobing myself?
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: cybrbeast]
#1763014 - 07/30/03 02:21 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, you should play with the dial if you feel that that'd be right at the time.
What I get at first is geometric patterns. After perhaps five or ten minutes, I start getting some pretty realistic (three-d, full-color) CEVs shaping themselves out of the blinking red-and-black background.
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ivi
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Re: DIY 'mind machines'/trip toys [Re: Sev]
#1788814 - 08/07/03 02:06 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Ouija"
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