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froste
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The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics
#17530089 - 01/10/13 09:05 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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The FrostE Filter
Okay, i didn't want to have to wait days for the disk filters since i can only get them online, and i didn't want a big hole in my lids to use poly fill either. So i did some research on jar filters and some brainstorming on making my own jar lid filter and this is what i came up with.
Tools you will need:
Supplys you will need: a lid (of course) and a rubber grommet: some poly fill for pillows: some tubing: and some screws: I got all this from ACE hardware by the way.
First, drill a hole in your lid to fit your grommet: Then ream it out a littel to get rid of the barbed edges and make your hole a little smoother Then take your lid and grommet and put the grommet in the lid
Second, take your tubing and cut it at about an inch and a half: then slide your tube into your grommet to the mid point and drill a hole right above the grommet and right below where your screw comes to They didn't have short enough screws so as you can see i had to cut them to my desired length Then pull your tube out and drill holes from your grommet hole to your screw hole like so then clean it out
Thrid, you will take a little of your poly fill twist and roll it so that it is tapered like so Then thread, and twist it into your tube till you can get it out the other side Then cut the ends of the poly fill off at the edges of your tube and make sure to push the poly fill in a tiny bit at each end so you have room for the screws
The last step is to take one of the srews out, slide your tube threw your grommet to the mid point and put that screw back in the end of the tube and you have this
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: froste] 1
#17530102 - 01/10/13 09:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it's an excellent lid design and concept. But I think your tubing should be 200 - 300% larger in diameter, and not stick so far into the jar on the inside. I don't think you'll get enough GE from that little tube. Just my opinion.
The concept is flawless though, no contam is making it through a polyfil filled tube, thats for sure. The 300: 'In that narrow pass, their numbers account for nothing!"
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: Tmethyl]
#17530267 - 01/10/13 09:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Great idea cheap and reliable I'm guessing the tubing is made of polypropylene, correct?
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: mushmagic]
#17530294 - 01/10/13 09:47 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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What is the advantage over just drilling a hole in the lid and stuffing it with polyfill?
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17530301 - 01/10/13 09:48 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trippy_Smurf said: What is the advantage over just drilling a hole in the lid and stuffing it with polyfill?
The spartan effect.
(not much really, since polyfil lids are like 100% effective as is, these are just his personal design)
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: Tmethyl]
#17530450 - 01/10/13 10:16 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree. Dont think its gonna get enough gas exchange also you need an injection site. You could just stuff the polyfil inside the grommet. I like that you are being creative though.
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: gizmo1]
#17530558 - 01/10/13 10:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: I think it's an excellent lid design and concept. But I think your tubing should be 200 - 300% larger in diameter, and not stick so far into the jar on the inside. I don't think you'll get enough GE from that little tube. Just my opinion.
The concept is flawless though, no contam is making it through a polyfil filled tube, thats for sure. The 300: 'In that narrow pass, their numbers account for nothing!"
Thank you
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Tmethyl said:
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Trippy_Smurf said: What is the advantage over just drilling a hole in the lid and stuffing it with polyfill?
The spartan effect.
(not much really, since poly fill lids are like 100% effective as is, these are just his personal design)
Yes, it is just my personal design and i wouldn't say its better than just stuffing the hole with poly fill but i didn't want my grains touching the poly fill when i shake them... why not? just a preference that i have.
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mushmagic said: Great idea cheap and reliable I'm guessing the tubing is made of polypropylene, correct?
not sure really... i just got a couple feet from ace that was in the plumbing section of the back wall it was the only kind that they had.... i normally check what im getting first, wish i did now, but i very well may go back and get some bigger grommets and tubing and i will check.
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gizmo1 said: I agree. Dont think its gonna get enough gas exchange also you need an injection site. You could just stuff the polyfil inside the grommet. I like that you are being creative though.
I can just bend the tube and stick the syringe through one of the holes and through the part of the tube inside the jar to inoculate.
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: froste]
#17530664 - 01/10/13 11:10 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it's not PP, you could really fuck up your jars/grains/PC when you PC them.
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: froste]
#17530687 - 01/10/13 11:15 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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This was a very cool Tek! The only thing I'm confused about is..... when did we stop using Tyvek envelopes? Drill 4 holes in a lid and cut a FREE Tyvek envelped in the proper size and your done. Did I mention it's free?
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: The shroomy 1]
#17530807 - 01/10/13 11:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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The shroomy 1 said: This was a very cool Tek! The only thing I'm confused about is..... when did we stop using Tyvek envelopes? Drill 4 holes in a lid and cut a FREE Tyvek envelped in the proper size and your done. Did I mention it's free?
When we found that the pores in cheap postal tyvek enlarge to much larger than mold spores when pressure cooked.
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17530852 - 01/11/13 12:00 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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What about Tyvek grocery bags? I got a few of them free and they look sturdier than envelopes but obviously that's not enough to be sure.
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: The shroomy 1]
#17530917 - 01/11/13 12:22 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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The shroomy 1 said: This was a very cool Tek! The only thing I'm confused about is..... when did we stop using Tyvek envelopes? Drill 4 holes in a lid and cut a FREE Tyvek envelped in the proper size and your done. Did I mention it's free?
Let me clarify that i am in by no means trying to replace any other method or even say that my idea is "better than..." I am just working on a filter design for my jars for myself and sharing it with everyone... after hearing some feedback i already have an idea of how i want to improve it... Iron sharpens iron my friend, and and even the shapest knife can sometimes have dull spots. But like I said: i am in by no means trying to replace any other method or even say that my idea is "better than..."
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17530966 - 01/11/13 12:44 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trippy_Smurf said:
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The shroomy 1 said: This was a very cool Tek! The only thing I'm confused about is..... when did we stop using Tyvek envelopes? Drill 4 holes in a lid and cut a FREE Tyvek envelped in the proper size and your done. Did I mention it's free?
When we found that the pores in cheap postal tyvek enlarge to much larger than mold spores when pressure cooked.
I don't PC my Tyvek disks.
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: froste]
#17530990 - 01/11/13 12:56 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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froste said:
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The shroomy 1 said: This was a very cool Tek! The only thing I'm confused about is..... when did we stop using Tyvek envelopes? Drill 4 holes in a lid and cut a FREE Tyvek envelped in the proper size and your done. Did I mention it's free?
Let me clarify that i am in by no means trying to replace any other method or even say that my idea is "better than..." I am just working on a filter design for my jars for myself and sharing it with everyone... after hearing some feedback i already have an idea of how i want to improve it... Iron sharpens iron my friend, and and even the shapest knife can sometimes have dull spots. But like I said: i am in by no means trying to replace any other method or even say that my idea is "better than..."
I totally get it my friend... It just seemed like I had been out of the loop for a while and while your Tek is really well thought out nicely presented, I was just trying to presence the Tyvek disks that many of us made about a year ago. I've made some really far out Teks in my days which I've scrubbed off my journal because they were really "self Indulgent". When I say that, I mean that they really were A "Fancy" way of getting something done that could have been done "cheaper" and sooooo much easier to achieve the "end result", I was in nooooo way trying to discredit your Tek. It's because of Members like you that this site exists! Keep learning!... Keep Sharing your breakthroughs!
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: The shroomy 1]
#17531131 - 01/11/13 02:01 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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The shroomy 1 said: I totally get it my friend... It just seemed like I had been out of the loop for a while and while your Tek is really well thought out nicely presented, I was just trying to presence the Tyvek disks that many of us made about a year ago. I've made some really far out Teks in my days which I've scrubbed off my journal because they were really "self Indulgent". When I say that, I mean that they really were A "Fancy" way of getting something done that could have been done "cheaper" and sooooo much easier to achieve the "end result", I was in nooooo way trying to discredit your Tek. It's because of Members like you that this site exists! Keep learning!... Keep Sharing your breakthroughs!
Thank you very much, i appreciate you thoughts, feedback and kind words... especially coming from a trusted cultivator. I have only been into this hobby since October, but i love it so much, i didn't think that i would get this into it, but i find it so interesting and amazing.
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: The shroomy 1]
#17531567 - 01/11/13 07:47 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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The shroomy 1 said:
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Trippy_Smurf said:
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The shroomy 1 said: This was a very cool Tek! The only thing I'm confused about is..... when did we stop using Tyvek envelopes? Drill 4 holes in a lid and cut a FREE Tyvek envelped in the proper size and your done. Did I mention it's free?
When we found that the pores in cheap postal tyvek enlarge to much larger than mold spores when pressure cooked.
I don't PC my Tyvek disks.
Then how do you sterilize them?
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#17532557 - 01/11/13 12:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trippy_Smurf said: Then how do you sterilize them?
I don't necessarily sterilize them. I use a product called Spray nine http://www.spraynine.com/product/spray-nine-cleanerdisinfectant-635 And I inoculate in front of my Flowhood. It's worked for me for many years. https://files.shroomery.org/files/10-24/708379996-DSC00722.jpg I'm also really picky about my "Work environment" and all the procedures I take during a grow. I've done up to 90 qt jars at one time with about 8 jars winding up being contaminated. I'll take those numbers any day.
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: The shroomy 1]
#17532622 - 01/11/13 12:56 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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The success rate you want for 90 jars is 90 jars hahaha
10% fail yikes, that's $
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#17532643 - 01/11/13 01:01 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Basically, Shroomy 1, tyvek is so last year. Tyvek is out, felt and SFD are in.
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Re: The FrostE Filter (for jar lids) w/ pics [Re: Tmethyl]
#17532658 - 01/11/13 01:05 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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You sterilize grain with disinfectant?
I'm a huge fan of spray 9 products btw. Their cleaner takes paint off the walls but I don't understand what you're saying
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