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Jimbolino
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Which Lophophora should I take?
#17527233 - 01/10/13 11:19 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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So guys.. Which seeds would you take?
Lophophora diffusa U 4497 Lophophora diffusa ziegleri' U 7113 Lophophora williamsii f. fricii U 4422 Lophophora williamsii Typ U 958 Lophophora williamsii v. koehresii U 5817
I already have a few (maybe 4) small fricii here. Is there anything known about alkaloid contents in the different varieties? I know that L. diffusa has little to no contents but how about the other?
Thanks in advance!
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RiparianZoneJunky
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: Jimbolino]
#17527303 - 01/10/13 11:34 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think anybody in their right mind consumes their fricii or koehresii. If you're growing 'cause you think you'll consume it eventually, just get plain old williamsii.
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: Jimbolino]
#17527316 - 01/10/13 11:38 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well grow all of them of course!
This post will help with alkaloid questions : http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17047609#17047609
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Jimbolino
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akumushi said: I don't think anybody in their right mind consumes their fricii or koehresii. If you're growing 'cause you think you'll consume it eventually, just get plain old williamsii.
I knew this answer would come and I almost wrote something about it..
Yes I am a beginner and still in this "phase" were you think you would consume you cacti eventually.. But yes probably I won't consume them but its still nice to know if "there is something" in them..
I would like to grow them all but its probably a little bit too expensive, unless I get a good deal...
Edited by Jimbolino (01/10/13 11:46 AM)
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: Jimbolino]
#17527365 - 01/10/13 11:49 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I started with williamsii, caespitosa and fricii, just try to get a couple with different characteristics, the site linked above has a great side by side comparison to see what they look like comparatively. Pick the one you think is most aesthetic, they all have a least traces of the good stuff.
Edited by RiparianZoneJunky (01/10/13 11:50 AM)
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Juke Adro
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: Jimbolino]
#17531112 - 01/11/13 01:50 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Om nom nom....what!!!!! Koehresii is delicious with a nice butter mushroom sauce No seriously get them all and don't consume your pets! That's what uncle Pedro is for.
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kyoto
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: Juke Adro]
#17531169 - 01/11/13 02:35 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Op you live in netherland? I'm sure you can find some cheap loph's over there since they are totally legal to have. I know an excellent cacti supply in netherland and they got good and not to expensive lophs (i got mine there)
I started out with a loph w caespitosa (small),loph w nuevo yucatan, loph w rinconada and a bridgessi and pachanoi. A week later i ordered a larger caespiotsa loph and a peruvian torch. Then i stumbled across an auction and bought a 60euro pach monstr/crest :p
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: kyoto]
#17531185 - 01/11/13 02:55 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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kyoto said: Then i stumbled across an auction and bought a 60euro pach monstr/crest :p
I need to see this
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kyoto
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: Juke Adro]
#17531192 - 01/11/13 02:59 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Like it?
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Edited by kyoto (01/11/13 03:09 AM)
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Juke Adro
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: kyoto]
#17531210 - 01/11/13 03:20 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Holy shit! You do not want to know what id do for that! That also gives me hope that my pach crest is indeed a pach due to the small areole size and longish spines.... The one on the right, what say you???
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kyoto
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: Juke Adro]
#17531216 - 01/11/13 03:26 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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The base off the cacti sure looks different then the other ones. Mine also makes me wonder if the crests that are sold are actually true crests or monstruose cuttings that turned into a crest. Plant-paradise , a member here had a monstr that turned into a crest on both sides. It looked like a battleaxe. I'm sure i can find a picture off it.
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Juke Adro
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: kyoto]
#17531231 - 01/11/13 03:36 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry OP last off topic note.
That far right is supposed to be peruvianus and the three in the front are what i thought are pach and the one in the front right is different from the other 2 of the front 3. Weird.... Ill never know.
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: kyoto]
#17532797 - 01/11/13 01:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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kyoto said: The base off the cacti sure looks different then the other ones. Mine also makes me wonder if the crests that are sold are actually true crests or monstruose cuttings that turned into a crest. Plant-paradise , a member here had a monstr that turned into a crest on both sides. It looked like a battleaxe. I'm sure i can find a picture off it.
You mean this one kyote?
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kyoto
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jep , that's the one!
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: kyoto]
#17533684 - 01/11/13 04:39 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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All these pictures of crests are killing me. Great shots guys.
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Juke Adro
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plant-paradise said:
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kyoto said: The base off the cacti sure looks different then the other ones. Mine also makes me wonder if the crests that are sold are actually true crests or monstruose cuttings that turned into a crest. Plant-paradise , a member here had a monstr that turned into a crest on both sides. It looked like a battleaxe. I'm sure i can find a picture off it.
You mean this one kyote?
I want this!
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Jimbolino
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: Juke Adro]
#17536183 - 01/12/13 04:05 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha so guys...enough off topic here
Unfortunately I cannot get a good offer so I have to decide... Do I take 100seeds from all those above or do I take 1000 from only one sort?
To the one who asked... Yes I am from the netherlands but 60€ for a cactus is still high for me (student w/o job)
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kyoto
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: Jimbolino]
#17536188 - 01/12/13 04:14 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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1year seedlings cost around 5euro.
I would pick 100 seeds of each strain, that way you have some different looking ones
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Re: Which Lophophora should I take? [Re: Jimbolino]
#17536208 - 01/12/13 04:33 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Get 100 of each and tell betina i said hello
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akumushi said: All these pictures of crests are killing me. Great shots guys.
Sorry I know it's a little off topic but can anyone explain why "Crests" are so popular or sought after, what species they are, and anything else about them and how I get one?
Thanks in advance I'd never heard of this until like a week ago.
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