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Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets...
    #17516283 - 01/08/13 08:52 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

They are trying to restrict guns and magazines to the general public all the while they are loading up on ammo.  Why so much ammo, I wonder...

http://www.businessinsider.com/dhs-fletc-ammunition-purchases-750-million-200-million-40-caliber-rounds-2013-1


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Re: Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets... [Re: mpd]
    #17516303 - 01/08/13 08:59 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

According to one statistic I read, the US uses almost twice that many bullets in a year.

Not too worried by this, seems alarmist


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Re: Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets... [Re: NWlight]
    #17516423 - 01/08/13 09:41 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

These guys are at the shooting range frequently. That uses up a lot of ammo. They got to be sharp.

Some snipers can fire 1000 bullets per day. Its goes quickly.


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Re: Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets... [Re: Patlal]
    #17516477 - 01/08/13 09:58 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I read the specifics on this when it first hit the internet. At the very least this is a gross waste of money. Why? Because the ammuntion they ordered is JHP, which while having more stopping power than FMJ it's also more expensive. If the rounds are being used for qualifying/requalifying or range practice then they shouldn't have bought the more expensive of the two. Granted they need JHP for duty carry, why couldn't they have got a split order...

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Re: Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets... [Re: HumanBeing]
    #17516491 - 01/08/13 10:00 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

They're gonna fucking shoot us all dead.


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Re: Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets... [Re: HumanBeing]
    #17516596 - 01/08/13 10:29 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

They should use the same ammo on duty as off, IMO 

ammo is not all the same subjectively and they should practice what they'll be using IRL


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Re: Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets... [Re: NWlight]
    #17516649 - 01/08/13 10:43 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

NWlight said:
They should use the same ammo on duty as off, IMO 

ammo is not all the same subjectively and they should practice what they'll be using IRL




I know what you're getting at and it's only a legitimate concern for sharp shooters. Difference in accuracy of JHP and FMJ fired at close to intermediate range is minimal enough that any trained shooter will still hit the mark.

Like I said, at the very least this is a waste money seeing as they use a lot more ammunition for training and exercise than they do in the line of duty.

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Re: Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets... [Re: mpd] * 1
    #17516674 - 01/08/13 10:48 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

My guess would be a deal between ammo manufacturers and the gov't to make a big chunk of money at the taxpayer's expense.

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Re: Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets... [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #17516692 - 01/08/13 10:53 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

We have a  :winner:...:money::minigun: . . . :peace:

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Re: Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets... [Re: vinsue] * 1
    #17518588 - 01/08/13 05:45 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

It's creepy if you ask me.  Makes me nervous that the government wants to reduce gun ownership on the one hand while it quietly arms itself to the teeth.


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Re: Department of Homeland Security Buys a Billion Bullets... [Re: mpd]
    #17518597 - 01/08/13 05:47 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

The Coast Guard falls under Homeland security.
Oh also the Border Patrol, in fact all of these fall under Homeland security

Immigration Services
U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Federal Emergency Management Agency
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Transportation Security Administration
United States Coast Guard
National Protection and Programs Directorate
United States Secret Service

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