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N. Korea warns of war with US.............again
#1750256 - 07/26/03 05:52 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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When are they going to stop running their mouths and blow our asses up?
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SEOUL, South Korea - The Korean War ended 50 years ago, yet tensions remain high amid suspicion that North Korea (news - web sites) is developing nuclear weapons. In a reminder of uneasiness along the world's most heavily armed border, the communist country Saturday warned of a new war.
The warning came ahead of the 50th anniversary Sunday of the armistice that ended the 1950-53 armed conflict on the world's last remaining Cold War frontier.
"The arrogant and outrageous moves of the U.S. imperialists to stifle the DPRK by force are being carried into extremes," North Korea's army Chief of the General Staff Kim Yong Chun said.
North Korea "will promptly beat back any precision strike, surgical operation-style strike and pre-emptive nuclear attack with the powerful war deterrent force," Kim said.
U.S. officials believe North Korea already has one or two nuclear bombs, and has programs that can build several more atomic bombs within in a matter of months.
The United States and its allies want North Korea to end such programs.
Pyongyang, however, accuses Washington of inciting the dispute to use as an excuse for an invasion. Washington wants a diplomatic solution, but has not ruled out military options.
"A diplomatic solution is imperative," said United Nations (news - web sites) Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites) in a statement released Saturday to mark the upcoming anniversary. "It is also a realistic possibility."
Korean War veterans echoed the U.N. chief's hopes for a peaceful resolution to avoid another war on the divided Korean Peninsula.
"Pray to God it doesn't happen again," said Benjamin Whitchurch, a British war veteran. "Because the war as we knew it in the 50s has advanced so many times with all the different destruction bombs ... it would be an annihilation."
Whitchurch and about 70 other British veterans attended a commemorative ceremony at a former battlefield in South Korea (news - web sites) near the mine-laden border with North Korea. Britain fought as a member of the 16-nation U.N. force against China- and Soviet-backed North Korea.
Hopes of talks to deal with the North Korean nuclear crisis have been rising in South Korea in recent weeks. South Korean officials have expressed optimism that the United States, North Korea and China will meet in Beijing soon, possibly next month, to discuss the nuclear standoff.
The United States considers North Korea's nuclear ambitions a regional threat and insists on multilateral talks involving South Korea, Japan, China and possibly Russia.
North Korea wants a one-on-one meeting with the United States.
A Japanese newspaper reported Saturday that North Korea has threatened to conduct a nuclear test if the United States does not respond positively in their dialogue to resolve the dispute.
The warning was given during unofficial contacts between a North Korean official and U.S. envoy Jack Pritchard in New York earlier this month, the Asahi Shimbun newspaper reported, quoting unidentified Japanese and North Korean sources.
The nuclear dispute flared in October, when U.S. officials said North Korea admitted having a secret nuclear program in violation of international agreements.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Learyfan]
#1750299 - 07/26/03 07:38 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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North Korea won't nuke anyone. That's not the problem. Communist leaders have no respect for human life in general, but they usually have a lot of respect for their personal asses, and they know that they have no chance to survive a nuclear retaliation. They are not suicidal.
And North Korea hasn't even performed non-nuclear terrorist attacks against innocent civilians since 1987.
The real problem starts when they start selling their atomic bombs to people like Muammar Qaddafi or Hassan Nasrallah.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Rhizoid]
#1750509 - 07/26/03 11:00 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wasnt Qaddafi CIA-friendly at one time, much like bin Laden?
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: iglou]
#1750515 - 07/26/03 11:06 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know. Perhaps he was, but you could probably say the same about Stalin. It doesn't make Qaddafi any less dangerous in any case.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Rhizoid]
#1750528 - 07/26/03 11:17 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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the problem is not so much just n. korea but that they have the support of other communist contries
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: ]
#1750597 - 07/26/03 11:48 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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They do? Which ones?
I thought the main life-support they got was from the U.S. plus South Korea, Japan and the E.U.
Do they get aid from Cuba, China and Zimbabwe also? I can't think of any other communist countries that haven't turned around or collapsed yet.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Rhizoid]
#1750637 - 07/26/03 12:01 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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China. Do we give them foreign aid? I wouldnt think we would. I'm pretty sure S korea doesnt, theyre still at war after all... I dunno about the other nations. I feel like China would be more apt to defend n korea against 'american imperialism', at least at first. They're just talking shit though, imo. They'd like to hope their threats would coerce us into giving them a nice couple billion dollar check and all that. Wont happen, though. Those bastards will funnel it right back into their military/nuke programs, and our administration knows it. Nah, theyre just blowing smoke. If it really comes to a head we'll just drop some bombs on em and hopefully put them in their place.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Rhizoid]
#1750707 - 07/26/03 12:41 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Last week Qaddafi's son made a public pledge to be a good friend to the United States. Funny how sobering it can be having an armored division parked in your neighborhood.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: ]
#1750774 - 07/26/03 01:21 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill Clinton taught North Korea a real lesson, that bluff can be profitable. I don't think Kim understands that Bush is unlikely to play along. I would hate to see a pissing contest between the US and China but Kim may force the issue.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: AislingGheal]
#1750800 - 07/26/03 01:39 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wish North Korea would either bomb us or be quiet. I'm sick of reading headlines reading "North Korea threatens US".

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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Learyfan]
#1750819 - 07/26/03 01:50 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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they depended on the US for energy.. the nuclear crisis made the US stop.. they're just poor whiny punks who want their heat back. silliness
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Learyfan]
#1751017 - 07/26/03 03:35 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wonder if Bush realizes that defacing an American flag is illegal. I wonder if he even realizes he's defacing it.
I wonder if he realizes . . . anything.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: EchoVortex]
#1751061 - 07/26/03 03:55 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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EchoVortex said: I wonder if Bush realizes that defacing an American flag is illegal. I wonder if he even realizes he's defacing it.
I wonder if he realizes . . . anything.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Learyfan]
#1751074 - 07/26/03 04:03 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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i doubt their bombs would reach us, or hit their target if they did...
that picture made my jaw drop, btw.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: ]
#1751245 - 07/26/03 05:51 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pretty symbolic huh?
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Learyfan]
#1751248 - 07/26/03 05:52 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now I just need the pic of Bush wiping his ass with the Constitution and my collection is complete!
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: EchoVortex]
#1751267 - 07/26/03 06:03 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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>>>I wonder if Bush realizes that defacing an American flag is illegal<<<
Illegal where? It may be illegal in some states, I don't know. But it's not illegal everywhere in america.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1751478 - 07/26/03 07:56 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: >>>I wonder if Bush realizes that defacing an American flag is illegal<<<
Illegal where? It may be illegal in some states, I don't know. But it's not illegal everywhere in america.
"Although the U.S. Supreme Court has twice invalidated state flag laws, 47 states still have on the books laws, many modeled after the Uniform Flag Law of 1917, that prohibit the desecration of the flag or its use for advertising and publicity purposes."
List of State Laws
Unless he was in one of the three states that do not have flag laws, he was committing what most states consider a misdemeanor (see the list for a state-by-state breakdown).
Personally, I believe people should have the right to burn and/or otherwise mutilate the flag under First Amendment protection. Of course, when long-haired radicals mutilate the US flag the intended message is clear. In Bush's case, he must have the mistaken notion that since he is the president, he and the nation are one and the same, i.e., "L'etat, c'est moi", and therefore he has the right to deface the flag with his John Hancock. If that's the message he wants to put across, I would defend his right to do so: no reason for me to stop him from betraying his complete misunderstanding of the function of the executive branch of government and making a jackass of himself, as usual.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: EchoVortex]
#1751769 - 07/26/03 10:11 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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EchoVortex said: I wonder if Bush realizes that defacing an American flag is illegal. I wonder if he even realizes he's defacing it.
Bush knew
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Now I just need the pic of Bush wiping his ass with the Constitution and my collection is complete
I'll work on it for you.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: Learyfan]
#1753010 - 07/27/03 12:53 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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immaculate: China.
-China is not communist, they are totalitarian/market socialist. And anyways, it doesnt matter if North Korea can hit the us with bombs or not, if north korea hits Tokyo with a missile the world economy will crash.
As of now, North Korea can do what ever it wants, because a war in North East Asia will most definitly fuck up China's economy (the 3rd largest in the world) and China's economy is very fragile, and once again....if China's economy gets fucked up, the world economy will crash.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
#1753235 - 07/27/03 02:39 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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atomikfunksoldier said: immaculate: China.
-China is not communist, they are totalitarian/market socialist. And anyways, it doesnt matter if North Korea can hit the us with bombs or not, if north korea hits Tokyo with a missile the world economy will crash.
As of now, North Korea can do what ever it wants, because a war in North East Asia will most definitly fuck up China's economy (the 3rd largest in the world) and China's economy is very fragile, and once again....if China's economy gets fucked up, the world economy will crash.
I don't know about all that, but anyways...
China is somewhat with us in this problem. If NK keeps trying to esculate things, China will have to bitch slap them. China supplies most of their food and oil. To make a point recently, China cut off the supply for a few days. Luckily there are countries in the area that agree with us, and want this to be worked out peacefully. They all have a lot of ways to put pressure on NK.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: shakta]
#1753280 - 07/27/03 02:53 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes, but if the US uses violence, there is a high possibility of economic disaster. not just minor disaster...MASS DISASTER. I think the problem in North Korea will define the 21st century.
what is needed is very well calculated diplomacy coupled with covert ops. An outright military campaign would have have tragic results, because If NK gets attacked...i think they will definitly bomb Japan, and if they bomb the worlds second biggest economy, whose economic/governmental infrastructure is concentrated in one city (Tokyo) that would be a complete disaster for the entire world.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
#1753281 - 07/27/03 02:53 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ralph Metzner, Timothy Leary's old Harvard buddy believes it will take another depression for drugs to be legalized.
The government won't want to miss out on that revenue while flushing money trying to stop it.
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Re: N. Korea warns of war with US.............again [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
#1753294 - 07/27/03 02:57 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree with you. They would most definately try to attack Japan or SK for sure. I want no part of another Asian war if it can be avoided, and I think it can. We(the World community) have enough pressure to apply to avoid that me thinks.
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