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Offlinescrogman
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i got busted today!
    #17489964 - 01/03/13 03:35 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

So today i was chilling at home, just got out of bed. it was about 9 o'clock. a car pulled up in the driveway and out got four people got out walked straight through my front door and a female cop handed me a warrant. It was to search my house for being in possession of mdma. which i had ordered on a certain website. so i showed them my weed, a few plants, half oz, i dont smoke, just sell which they found evidence in my phone. they found about 13 25i nbome tabs, ten 2cb tabs which i had made up from a gram i had ordered online, they also found about 5 25c nbome tabs. also they found about 5 grams of shrooms, also they could prove i sold some of my 2c pills at a festival a few days ago.

So i was arrested charged blah blah. its my first offense so im just searching for advice on what might be my legal outcome. cops said ill get a slap on the wrist and they were all listed as minor offenses. what is the legality of these 2c compounds in Tasmania Australia? Ive done internet searches but cant find squat!

also my friend up the road got busted same time with over 300 25i pills and half a pound of bud :frown: any help would be great from people who know about aussie law. im gonna continue to do searches on the net see what i can find, cheers dudes.

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: scrogman]
    #17489968 - 01/03/13 03:37 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

thats some shit


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Re: i got busted today! [Re: scrogman]
    #17489969 - 01/03/13 03:38 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Dont wipe your ass.

Thats a turn-off in prison.


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Re: i got busted today! (moved) [Re: scrogman]
    #17489975 - 01/03/13 03:39 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Pub.

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Fits better here.

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: scrogman] * 2
    #17489984 - 01/03/13 03:43 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

You helped them with their search...

How considerate of you.

Did you find it got you fewer charges for doing the cops job for them?

:picard:


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Re: i got busted today! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #17489995 - 01/03/13 03:49 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Rail_Gun said:
You helped them with their search...

How considerate of you.

Did you find it got you fewer charges for doing the cops job for them?

:picard:




nope, i guess cas they had stuff from my phone i just told em, there wasnt huge amounts of any one particular thing. luckily i took all my acid at falls fetival so they couldnt take that :nyan:

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: scrogman]
    #17489996 - 01/03/13 03:52 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Why did you give them your phone? It was listed on the warrant? You didn't have time to snap it in half if they were trying to ask you for it? Self incrimination is not a profitable hobby, is it?


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Re: i got busted today! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #17490004 - 01/03/13 03:59 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

gee i never thought of wiping incriminating evidence from my phone! maybe next time huh! like i said they came through my door as i was running over to lock it. if i got to the door i would've had time to smash it up and flush the gear but oh well im busted not asking for trolls opinions on how dumb ive been just seeing if anyone knew specific legal info on 2c compounds in my state as my searches are leading nowhere

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: scrogman]
    #17490013 - 01/03/13 04:07 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Well OK. Didn't mean to be a dick, sorry. I'm skeptical though that it has anything to do with an order you made online. They busted your "friend" at the same time and had "proof" you sold at a concert. Reeks of police informants to me. They usually like to lie about how they got their info to protect their informants. Good luck with this thing, and sorry about being a troll, it's easy to point out mistakes in retrospect, not so easy to avoid them in practice.


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Re: i got busted today! [Re: scrogman]
    #17490019 - 01/03/13 04:10 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

.I reckon the 2CB would be covered by Australian analogue laws. The 25I too probably.

Edited by Anonymous (01/03/13 04:12 AM)

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #17490042 - 01/03/13 04:31 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

yeah nah im sure it was thro
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Rail_Gun said:
Well OK. Didn't mean to be a dick, sorry. I'm skeptical though that it has anything to do with an order you made online. They busted your "friend" at the same time and had "proof" you sold at a concert. Reeks of police informants to me. They usually like to lie about how they got their info to protect their informants. Good luck with this thing, and sorry about being a troll, it's easy to point out mistakes in retrospect, not so easy to avoid them in practice.




hey dude all good, i was just hesitant to post anyway cas i knew id be trolled lol. oh well, yeah it sounds suss but the mdma is probs the only thing that didn't come through. it was on the warrant that it had been stopped in customs. and they raided my mate cas of info in my phone and apparently he had heroin held up too.it was stupid, i guess we got away with ordering  heaps of shit to start with (speed coke acid ketamine etc) for so little money (drugs are dear here!) we got out of control.

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #17490046 - 01/03/13 04:34 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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psyke101 said:
.I reckon the 2CB would be covered by Australian analogue laws. The 25I too probably.



yeah they are, the police didnt know fuck all about the 2c compounds but they found out they were scheduled

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: scrogman]
    #17490063 - 01/03/13 04:41 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

The penalties for any scheduled psychedelic are probably the same.

I don't think we have anyone posting here who knows much about Australian law.  Your best bet is to schedule a couple free consultations with criminal defense attorneys.

Do you know if they are charging you with possession or distribution?  Could go either way with the amounts you had...

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #17490090 - 01/03/13 04:52 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
The penalties for any scheduled psychedelic are probably the same.

I don't think we have anyone posting here who knows much about Australian law.  Your best bet is to schedule a couple free consultations with criminal defense attorneys.

Do you know if they are charging you with possession or distribution?  Could go either way with the amounts you had...



yeah booking a session for law advice with a free legal service tomorrow. this is before i go see my lawyer who charges 260 ph :frown: i have received about 7 charges; possessing controlled substance, " with intent to sell, possessing controlled plant, " with intent to sell, possessing controlled smoking device, taking controlled substances.

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: scrogman] * 4
    #17490344 - 01/03/13 07:25 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

You say your friend got busted down the road at about the same time?
Any chance he snitched on you in order to try and save his own ass?


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Re: i got busted today! [Re: scrogman]
    #17491648 - 01/03/13 01:43 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

You should ask this question over at shaman-australis and do some searches there for outcomes of some of the members there who have been busted. They will be able to give you much better advice and responses specific to Australian law and local outcomes.

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #17491755 - 01/03/13 02:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
You should ask this question over at shaman-australis and do some searches there for outcomes of some of the members there who have been busted. They will be able to give you much better advice and responses specific to Australian law and local outcomes.



thanks dude! i forgot about that website its been a while!

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: scrogman]
    #17493076 - 01/03/13 06:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

scrogman said:
which i had ordered on a certain website




Does a certain website adhere to any internal policy which would assist in protecting its customers (acceptable level of encryption for customer correspondence/browsing the site, stealth packaging on shipment, etc.)?  In other words, while you appear reluctant to reveal the URL of the website (either due to forum rules or some ethical reasons), if you believe such an ordering process contributed to your rather unfortunate event, please share the details regarding a certain web site's room for improvement.

On the other hand, if a certain website has proven (so far) to exude a top-notch and reputable presence, the details that would be helpful in this Security and Safety niche come from the following question: 

What were the flaws in your process?

Answering this question will also help others to improve their own processes, so you should answer it even if a certain website has a tarnished reputation.

IMO, a good question to answer for all "busted" posts that end up in Security and Safety.

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: nothing]
    #17493210 - 01/03/13 06:44 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Posting links to sources is against the rules, you should know that by now.

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: nooneman]
    #17493569 - 01/03/13 07:34 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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nooneman said:
Posting links to sources is against the rules, you should know that by now.




Thank you.  The "rules" you speak of were considered in my post where I mentioned:
Quote:

(either due to forum rules or some ethical reasons)


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I regret the misunderstanding and hope it doesn't skew the purpose of my post.

Thanks again for allowing me to clarify my intentions.

Edited by nothing (01/03/13 08:02 PM)

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: nothing]
    #17495499 - 01/04/13 06:14 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I cant comment on Australian Law but in the UK 2C-B and all other 2C-x compounds are Class A (same as cocaine and heroin) but 25B-NBOMe and all other 25x-NBOMes are unclassified and at present 100% legal.

In UK our analogue laws are fairly extensive but as the NBOMe extension of the compound makes it fairly different it gets around it. May be worth checking the same occurs in Australia.

Whats you cannabis laws like over there?

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: LySergic D]
    #17505319 - 01/06/13 02:50 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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LySergic D said:
You say your friend got busted down the road at about the same time?
Any chance he snitched on you in order to try and save his own ass?



The cops talking about selling at a concert pretty much debunks the idea of a mail interception leading to the search. Police informants and naivety led to the rest imo. Shitty situation all around. In East Germany 1 in 57 people worked with the secret police. I wonder what it is in our modern society with the war on personal freedom...

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #17509113 - 01/06/13 08:25 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:

In East Germany 1 in 57 people worked with the secret police. I wonder what it is in our modern society with the war on personal freedom...



Staatssicherheit?

Stasi @ Wikipedia

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Re: i got busted today! [Re: nothing]
    #17541149 - 01/13/13 07:33 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

OP got narced on by said "friend" who got busted. it's obvious.


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Re: i got busted today! [Re: istandalone]
    #17560617 - 01/17/13 01:54 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

so did you actually get busted for having the mdma, or was it confiscated in transit and they got a warrant for your house? just a question im asking?


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Re: i got busted today! [Re: Mr.Mcrad]
    #17600776 - 01/24/13 05:56 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I have the same question, did the MDMA ever make it to you? I dunno Australian law, but something seems very fishy.


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Re: i got busted today! [Re: shaggyp]
    #17640378 - 01/30/13 08:57 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

He said that the mandy was stopped at customs according to the warrant.

DON'T admit to ordering the drugs. Don't they have to do a controlled delivery in order to prove intent? I'm in Aus and I thought that's how it worked.

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