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OfflineFungusmaximusFM
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Cyans Trops? w / pics
    #1748798 - 07/25/03 06:06 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

All right Ive got a bed of cyans spawned to straw/ dung and promycel 600.
They are doing great it seems.
I posted the pics at my house and everyone seems to think that the ID of them is incorrect. They are supposed to be trops but others say no they arent. They are too fat etc. I dunno, but i know they arent cubes for sure. Have a look at tell me what you think...












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Re: Cyans Trops? w / pics [Re: FungusmaximusFM]
    #1748878 - 07/25/03 06:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

nice  :thumbup:
could be the spawnmate .
let us see how they look when the caps open . :tongue:
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Re: Cyans Trops? w / pics [Re: deanofmean]
    #1748977 - 07/25/03 07:11 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like you might have the classic problem of cubensis contamination to me.  I know you said it's not, but that's what I think.
Pan cambos do have a darker cap, closer to that color.  It's hard to tell with no size reference, but they don't seem proportioned like a pan at all :frown:


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Re: Cyans Trops? w / pics [Re: mycofile]
    #1749466 - 07/25/03 10:45 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

They do seem very dark. I should note here that you can only correctly delineate pan.cyanescens from pan. trop. / cambod. through microscopic analysis of basidia and cystidia. As there around 12 binomials of Panaeolus cyanescens that very considerably in macroscopic characteristics, it could be any of the variants.
In the post below, Teonan has demonstrated that the mushrooms in circulaion within the OMC labelled Trop. and Cambod. are actually variants of cyanescens with four-spored basidia.:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1746930&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post1747448

This pan sent to me as a Trop. did have a brown cap at early stages of development - here on agar:


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Re: Cyans Trops? w / pics [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1749471 - 07/25/03 10:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Cyans Trops? w / pics [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1749927 - 07/26/03 02:20 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yea they are trops
I think overlay and a weak isolate had something to do with the shitty pinset. Im cloning the largestand earliest from one of the clusters.









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Re: Cyans Trops? w / pics [Re: FungusmaximusFM]
    #1750168 - 07/26/03 05:20 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

nice pictures :thumbup:


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Re: Cyans Trops? w / pics [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1750392 - 07/26/03 11:19 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

No, they are actually a variant of pan.cyanescens as they have four spored basidia - as the above link demonstrates :smile: There are no Pan.Trop. present in the OMC - unfortunately they were incorrectly identified as this can only be done microscopically.


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Re: Cyans Trops? w / pics [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1750394 - 07/26/03 11:21 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

They are identical to the ones i grew out from that above plate.


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