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InvisibleSpitballJedi
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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: Citric]
    #17482765 - 01/01/13 07:45 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

How he get's away with defying convention is baffling.

75% colonizing, no GE for pint jars. :shrug: I just didn't think it was possible.

My Spidey senses are still tingling.


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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: Citric]
    #17482829 - 01/01/13 07:56 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

I wholeheartedly agree with almost everything you say. I buy pint jars because they are versatile... they are the largest wide mouth jars I can locate. Anything of any larger size requirement is made up in a mycobag with a filter patch. Now if anyone comes through this post and somehow gets the idea that using a 75% colonized sub is a GOOD idea. then they should not be growing or using. as for using 3/4 of a pint? where do you get that from? when using WBS I barely need to leave any room in the jar to have enough space to shake the grains.

y'all are frustrating sometimes, but if i gotta explain it a hundred different ways so that the next guy does'nt jack up his shit, so be it.


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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #17482848 - 01/01/13 08:00 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

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SpitballJedi said:
How he get's away with defying convention is baffling.

75% colonizing, no GE for pint jars. :shrug: I just didn't think it was possible.

My Spidey senses are still tingling.




Try it for yourself. Take a pint jar like I do it and knock it up with MS or LC and watch it grow. I can't make you believe it till you see it. as for a 75% colonized jar... take one outside, dump it in your garden and cover with topsoil. cubes are hardy mofos. youll still get results.


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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: Zenlykos]
    #17482852 - 01/01/13 08:01 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

If you are filling the jar more then 3/4 way and still shaking, you are barely distributing the myc around.  As far as using wide mouth jars.  They do make quarts that are wide mouth.  You still need to break the spawn up first as it won't just slide out, but you can use the lids for them as well.


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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: Citric]
    #17482879 - 01/01/13 08:07 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

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If you are filling the jar more then 3/4 way and still shaking, you are barely distributing the myc around.  As far as using wide mouth jars.  They do make quarts that are wide mouth.  You still need to break the spawn up first as it won't just slide out, but you can use the lids for them as well.




they make quart jars that can be used for PF cakes as well? the whole point of using pint jars is they are the largest with the tapered mouth, and can be used for all growing teks.

as for an issue with shaking I really dont run into any issues with mixing the WBS. its mostly millet and its pretty easy to shake up. Idk, with other grains, larger ones at least, yeah there should be more room.


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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: Zenlykos]
    #17482912 - 01/01/13 08:13 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

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How he get's away with defying convention is baffling.

75% colonizing, no GE for pint jars. :shrug: I just didn't think it was possible.

My Spidey senses are still tingling.




Try it for yourself. Take a pint jar like I do it and knock it up with MS or LC and watch it grow. I can't make you believe it till you see it. as for a 75% colonized jar... take one outside, dump it in your garden and cover with topsoil. cubes are hardy mofos. youll still get results.




I'll pass, thanks. I'm certainly not set out to try and prove you wrong or anything.

Some of the experienced people get pissy when they see something they don't like or seems unreasonable, I do too. And it's understandable, they just don't want bad practices getting spread to noobs. This hobby can be a struggle as it is.

When you post something like this, in the form of a tek, expect it to get questioned to death, harshly, and even flamed. Your method is not best practice.

If you say that's what you do, then who am I to deny it?:shrug:


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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: Zenlykos]
    #17482932 - 01/01/13 08:16 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

Yea they make qt wide mouths.


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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #17483004 - 01/01/13 08:27 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

My method is hardly the best practice, but when my pursuit of this subject is very limited by the time I have, it is the best for me. So far every practice I am sharing has been proven to work. I would not share information that I could not attest to. One of the biggest problems I have with this site is a general unwillingness to have alternate practices approved by the majority simply because they use less than perfect method, or equipment. My ability to begin this venture was limited by everyone's strict adherence to the guaranteed tried and true practices. If I had know what I know now, I could have been making PF cakes in dixie cups when I was 12. not with the best results, but still.

But I hear your point, I should put a notice to noobs. a do not enter, so to say.


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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: zMan]
    #17483014 - 01/01/13 08:29 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

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Yea they make qt wide mouths.




zMan, is this what you mean?

http://www.dollardays.com/i902966-wholesale-ball-wide-mouth-quart-jar-w-lid-12p.html


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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: Zenlykos]
    #17486051 - 01/02/13 12:21 PM (12 years, 16 days ago)

>The flatter you can get the injection site, the better.

May I ask why?

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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: listerine]
    #17486096 - 01/02/13 12:30 PM (12 years, 16 days ago)

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>The flatter you can get the injection site, the better.

May I ask why?




I've found that with a coarse, or irregular inoculation point can be harder to swab effectively with alcohol unless you use a surplus of alcohol to cover the area. at which point you are possibly injecting a larger amount of alcohol when you push the syringe through.

summary- its easier to swab and inoculate.


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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: PussyFart]
    #18994621 - 10/18/13 09:19 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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these jar setups are for PF, grain, LC, whatever you need. Using this lid setup reduces contams to almost nothing. I don't even use a glove box or flame sterilization with these lids. just swab the port with 90% alcohol and stick your syringe in. with these and PF tek you dont need to worry about having a 1/2in gap and keeping the glass clean. you are able to use the full volume of the jar, and as long as you PC correctly, it foolproof.



70% alcohol is better than 90% for this hobby.

Not arguing the fact that it doesn't work, but regular PF Tek jars with exposed holes and a dry verm layer can be inoculated in open air with success as well.

And I understand that this is not just for PF-tEK





why is 70% better? just wondering

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Re: LC jars - self healing lids [Re: ghostshadow422]
    #18994668 - 10/18/13 09:32 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

The extra water content helps penetrate cell walls more efficiently.

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