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meowcatmeow
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Javadog]
#17432625 - 12/22/12 02:25 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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How are the Orrisa India cubes in comparison to Penis Envy?
You all say, "cubes are cubes, but PE are generally more potent." I was just wondering if the same could be said of these colossal beauties?
I'm getting prepared for my first grow ever, and I want something powerful. I'm probably gonna go with Golden Teacher for my absolute first, but I'm also aiming to order more than one "strain" of spores.
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k00laid
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: meowcatmeow]
#17432677 - 12/22/12 02:39 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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meowcatmeow said: You all say that cubes are cubes, but PE are generally more potent.
we all say a cube is a cube, except for PE.
i contribute most of PE's alleged potency to is alleged slow colonization times.
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Rose
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: k00laid]
#17434383 - 12/22/12 09:14 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree. The slower the growth the more potency. And the more interesting the fruits look.
IME, OI was one of the most visual and spiritual shrooms I have enjoyed.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: k00laid]
#17434563 - 12/22/12 09:58 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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i contribute most of PE's alleged potency to is alleged slow colonization times.
It's potency is pretty evident and it shares added potency from slow growth with a few other strains, but still it beats them. Extended consolidation times can add quite a bit of potency, check my "potency project" thread in my sig (here if you're lazy ).
I've grown a mutant Ps. cyan strain that fruited at ordinary room temps and had about twice the potency of regular cubensis, its trips were pretty similar to PE (or PEU in my case since that's what I've grown). In the case of that mutant cyan its colonization times were similar to cubensis, it just pumped more of what you're looking for in the same time, which is also the impression I get from PE. Grow it and see. Of course, YMMV but can 1.5 million cultivators be wrong??
I've got well hydrated spores from that 17 year old mutant strain and in my next grow cycle (coming up!) I'm gonna work with it some more and see if I can't resurrect it - 'tis the season for miracles, after all.
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ProfessorPinHead
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Rose]
#17435686 - 12/23/12 05:38 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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k00laid said:
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meowcatmeow said: You all say that cubes are cubes, but PE are generally more potent.
we all say a cube is a cube, except for PE.
i contribute most of PE's alleged potency to is alleged slow colonization times.
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Cervantes said: I agree. The slower the growth the more potency. And the more interesting the fruits look.
IME, OI was one of the most visual and spiritual shrooms I have enjoyed.
I am in the same mindset.
I also thing the mutation has a little something to do with the increased potency but who knows, lol.
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Clever_You
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: RogerRabbit]
#17436155 - 12/23/12 09:31 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anyone have any good luck with Albino Penis Envy? im in the midst of trying some..also have KSS just going absolutly crazy. they colinize so quick i ran out of room in my FC and had to use a aquarium to fruit some in...Anyone have any experiance with KSS potency.. i hear that most thai strains have decent potency..i know its all genetics when it comes to potency i think RR said. dont quote me on that tho.Got Some Moo-Nure from home depot thats just absolutly amazing sub mixed with a little verm
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Tonydanzawillpay
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Clever_You]
#17439238 - 12/23/12 09:07 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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The PE is no joke
The ksss is not as intense/potent, it's very mellow and smooth
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Tonydanzawillpay]
#17439244 - 12/23/12 09:09 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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hey Mr.Unibroue ??!
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Tonydanzawillpay
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Gotlib]
#17439424 - 12/23/12 09:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Butt-Head said: hey Mr.Unibroue ??!
I used to like the la fins, or if they're on sale
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Tonydanzawillpay]
#17439482 - 12/23/12 10:01 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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where you from ??
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: Clever_You]
#17440970 - 12/24/12 09:33 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anyone have any experiance with KSS potency..
Yes.
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GreenHorns
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#17446087 - 12/25/12 11:36 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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got a spore gift card for xmas. wanting to grow some stones. anyone have a preference or just any old p. tampanensis will do? did some research and get whats what with it just want some fresh info since the philosopher stones threads from the search are all quite old.
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ProfessorPinHead
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: GreenHorns]
#17446578 - 12/25/12 01:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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GreenHorns said: got a spore gift card for xmas. wanting to grow some stones. anyone have a preference or just any old p. tampanensis will do? did some research and get whats what with it just want some fresh info since the philosopher stones threads from the search are all quite old.
There is only one P tamanensis. Psilocybe being the genus and tampanensis being the species. P tamanensis is in his section Mexicanae,.
The correct terminology you were looking for is "would any Psilocybe in the section Mexicanae do"?, rather than "will any old p. tampanensis do"?
The answer to that would be yes but some are very difficult to grow and some are even more difficult to get to grow stones.
What I would suggest would be one of these three to get more exotic experience before moving to hard Mexicanae like P samuensis.
- P golandoi Alt # 7 - P mexicana A - P tampanensis
Spores of these three species are readily available so that also makes it easier.
Here is a complete list of the section Mexicanae. I am not sure how accurate it is or when it was updated. There have been a bit of taxonomic shuffling going on recently in the Psilocybe genus.
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Psilocybe acutipilia, Psilocybe antioquensis, Psilocybe armandii, Psilocybe atlantis, Psilocybe galindoi, Psilocybe makarorae, Psilocybe pericystis, Psilocybe samuiensis, Psilocybe subacutipilea, and Psilocybe tampanensis.
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GreenHorns
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
#17446686 - 12/25/12 02:03 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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nice thanks!! sorry about the confusing terminology. i will check out those 3 and see which supporter has what. never even tried them let alone grown sclerotium producing fungus yet. ecstatic! hope i didn't just botch the use of sclerotium too.
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Clever_You
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: GreenHorns]
#17447576 - 12/25/12 06:00 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking For Info On Panaeolus cinctulus , Pluteus salicinus and Gymnopilus sp. anyone familiar with any of these im trying to get a potency range on them if anyone knows..any info is greatly apreciated
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stonepony
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Doc_T]
#17450139 - 12/26/12 11:22 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Azures should be started on agar causes most the prints aren't sterile cause they were picked from outside . So transfere from agar to agar til u get a good strain of mycelium then transfere to grain or somthing of that nature its for the pros not the amatures
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Clever_You
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: stonepony]
#17450809 - 12/26/12 02:18 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea Azures Arent For The Impatient Either Thats For Sure
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froste
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Clever_You]
#17466401 - 12/29/12 01:50 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I got a 10 cc spore syringe of Psilocybe cubensis F+ Spores (The Florida White Strain) All i know about them is what Lil' Shop of Spores says about them which is: "Originating in Florida the F+ is prized for it's vivid visuals. Producing medium sized fruits that come flush after flush the F+ is an excellent addition to your spore collection. The F+ fruits are very dense much like the Texas strain. A noticeable trait of the F+ is the very light, almost white color of the caps upon maturity." I was hoping someone might be able to either give me more info on these or direct me to some more info, i have googled with not much luck, maybe i am googleing wrong lol... Also any advice on growing these would be appreciated as well. On X-Mas morning I inoculated them 6 BRF cakes. On the 27th i thought i could see something but wasn't sure but looked on the 28th and noticed that they were colonizing pretty fast. I am debating weather to grow on the cakes or to go with a bulk substrate and casing layer. I used 1 syringe for the 6, i have read that you can get 10 jars out of 1 syringe using 1/4 cc in each hole (1 cc per jar), i have also read just to get 5 jars using 1/2 cc in each hole (2 cc per jar). i have even read about people using 1 cc in each hole (4 cc per jar). i was wondering why so many preferences? if you use more are you getting faster colonization? more flushes? more mushrooms? or if you are using more per jar are you spreading your spores too thin and getting a weak colonization and weak yield ? what are the pros and cons of how much spores you use per jar and what do you feel the best way to go is? I have little experience and have worked with cyans with good results but have not worked with cubes at all, only outside grow with my cyans... been wanting to do an inside grow with cubes and went with these F+ cubes only because i was born in Florida. Thanks in advance for any and all help, advice, info and direction. I greatly appreciate it.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: froste]
#17467101 - 12/29/12 04:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bulk.
Unless you've made a LC anything more than 1cc per jar would be a total waste (IMHO), especially for small jars. Growth goes by the volume and a small container will colonize quickly.
No, you won't get more flushes or yield with more innoculant - colonized is colonized. 
There was a discussion in this thread about the Florida strain not very long ago. They're s.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#17467584 - 12/29/12 06:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Bulk.
what would be the best way? and can I take my cakes and crumple them onto some coir that i have then spread some more coir on top?
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