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OfflineGazzBut
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Do we have a flat earth?
    #1745064 - 07/24/03 05:17 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

What areas of our science/belief systems do you guys think the people of the future will look back upon in the same way which we view the theory that the earth is flat?

Obviously, its hard to tell but Id say there are probably a fair few "flat earths" in our current understanding of the world.

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Re: Do we have a flat earth? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1745331 - 07/24/03 07:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Our understanding of Time


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Re: Do we have a flat earth? [Re: trendal]
    #1745661 - 07/24/03 08:36 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

^^^ What he said.


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Re: Do we have a flat earth? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1746246 - 07/25/03 12:09 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

everything.


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Re: Do we have a flat earth? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1746263 - 07/25/03 12:19 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Speed of light.


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Re: Do we have a flat earth? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1746513 - 07/25/03 01:48 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the speed of light is measurable. 3.0*10^8 m/s.

maybe you mean how its supposed to be the speed limit.


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Re: Do we have a flat earth? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #1746867 - 07/25/03 03:33 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hahahaha
"The New Age Retro Hippie used a ruler... now he can measure the length of things easily!"

On a quick off topic note, was there even a use for that ruler in EB?

Anyways, our existence on this planet will likely not last long enough for people of the future to look back and laugh at our current scientific speculations... so I laugh at them right now.

But let's say we do make it a few hundred years in the future, I'm sure we'll be laughed at for the concept of monogamy and marriage. Also, that we actually used to consume the flesh of dead animals, including their unhatched embryotic meat (eggs), and their mammary fluids (milk), and that we actually believed this to be healthy, normal behaviour.

And last but not least... religion will be the laughing stock of the universe... oh wait... it already is!


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Re: Do we have a flat earth? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1747464 - 07/25/03 10:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I think the following popular misconceptions will go away:

- That the Big Bang occurred in one spot in space instead of everywhere.

- That drug prohibition is a workable way to manage addiction problems.

- That entropy is the same thing as disorder.

- That matter and energy are fundamentally different from a vacuum.

- That it's essential that most people should work for a living.

As for paradigm shifts that haven't started yet, my guess is:

- What trendal said: our understanding of time.

- Our understanding of microbiology.

- Our understanding of the human mind.

But there will surely be surprises that no one can guess, it's really impossible to know in advance where they will occur. The only thing we know is that our old scientific theories will still be correct in the areas where they have been tested. That's one of the advantages of the scientific method. Old knowledge is still useful within limits, even after a paradigm shift.


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Re: Do we have a flat earth? [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1748406 - 07/25/03 03:50 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

- That the Big Bang occurred in one spot in space instead of everywhere.

That's not what is believed right now  :wink:
The Big Bang is supposedly the BEGINNING of all space - there was no "spot" in "space" for it to occur in, because "space" did not exist until the Big Bang occured.


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You don't know what it is, but it's there....
Like a splinter in your mind...
Driving you mad.


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Re: Do we have a flat earth? [Re: trendal]
    #1749763 - 07/26/03 01:11 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"Also, that we actually used to consume the flesh of dead animals, including their unhatched embryotic meat (eggs), and their mammary fluids (milk), and that we actually believed this to be healthy, normal behaviour."

Are you serious?


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Re: Do we have a flat earth? [Re: trendal]
    #1750091 - 07/26/03 03:59 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

That's not what is believed right now  :wink:
The Big Bang is supposedly the BEGINNING of all space - there was no "spot" in "space" for it to occur in, because "space" did not exist until the Big Bang occured.




Yeah, I said "popular misconception". I often encounter this misconception in ordinary people who haven't had the Big Bang theory explained correctly to them.

And there are actually two different versions of what space looked like when the Big Bang occurred, based on the two possible topologies that can arise from the equations. One is that space was a singularity, an infinitely small hypersphere with infinitely strong curvature, which then quickly expanded into a hypersphere that is so huge so that our visible section of it looks "flat".

The other version is that there was a singularity only in time, not in space. In this version, space had infinite extent the moment it came into existence, and it was filled with an infinitely high energy density everywhere.
 


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