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some type of pan subb
    #1744916 - 07/24/03 04:22 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)


I have been about the forum for the last few weeks reading and trying to learn as mutch as possible. To be quite honest I'm pretty obsessed about all this mycology. I've got it bad, anyway, it's been 100% humidity here in RI for the last 4 days. Went to a local pasture to see what I could see,(have been making the rounds in my car trying to find good spots, first time I entered into the field), I think I found some panaeolus subbalteatus or another of the panaeolus species. Meets all of the criteria as far as I can tell. The spore print was jet black,(albeit I really didn't wait for the entire print to drop, but after a few hours it was definatly black. They were growing out of cow dung, (reading alot of posts it seems highly unlikly for them to be found in cow dung). I'm looking for a good heap of horse manure and rotting hay/soil compost. The above is a picture of the possible pan subb, but they didn't come out good. like I said they follow all physical characteristics of pan subbs. What is the general concensus for finding pan subbs on cow dung here in rhode Island.. any help would be greatly appreciated.

Here are a few pics of some non actives that I've been finding.

Inky caps?? and ??


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: nofind_um]
    #1744931 - 07/24/03 04:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

It's hard to say but I think the yellowish one might be an immature Amanita. No clue on the species... perhaps A. muscaria var. formosa, then again it could be A. pantherina. Not worth your time, either way :\


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: Gumby]
    #1744943 - 07/24/03 04:32 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks gumbydude, that's what I figured on the amanita, didn't waste my time on it. There were quite a few of them around that area. I wish I would have gotten some good pic's of the pan subs in question. I'm still getting the distance of focus down on my digital cam.


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: nofind_um]
    #1744951 - 07/24/03 04:34 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

As Gumby said, the first one looks like an Amanita. To identify Amanitas to species we need a lot more information. For example, we need to see the volva (base of the stem and cuplike tissue around it) in detail. We also need to know about the odor, and any bruising reactions. There are a lot of yellow to brown capped Amanitas, so identification of them can be somewhat difficult, and may even require a microscope.

In any event, Amanita is not a good genus for putting in your mouth. There are more deaths from Amanitas than all other kinds of mushrooms combined.


The others look like inky caps, Coprinus, as you guessed. The most likely species is Coprinus micaceus. To verify that ID, look at the caps closely with a magnifier and see if there are tiny mica-like (like glitter) particles. If there are, then that's what they are.

Coprinus micaceus is edible while the gills are still white.


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1745075 - 07/24/03 05:20 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks toxic man. I agree on the amanita, didn't even think about it thanks to posts I read here at the shroomery. It fruited, spored and dissintegrated long ago.
I've been having a good time finding photographing and identifying several types of mushrooms. Here's one I havn't ID'ed yet.. what do you guys think...
It was pretty big like 4 or 5 inches high, and the cap was about 3 in. in diameter. I thought it might be some kind of russela??


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: nofind_um]
    #1745106 - 07/24/03 05:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like it's got a good potential of being a Russla or some type of Bolete... We'd have to see the underside of the cap to be sure.


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: Gumby]
    #1745508 - 07/24/03 07:54 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i cant really see why you thought either of these mushrooms could be pan subb? were you jsut being hopeful

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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: ZippoZ]
    #1745933 - 07/24/03 10:13 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

No, I was posting a pic of pan subbs?? that I found today. And the pics were total crap. so I just lost my train of thought and posted some non actives that I had found last week..
This is the best picture I have, I'm still new at taking digital pictures. And the detail isn't very good. The physical characteristics resemble pan subbs, (white at the gill edges), stem hollow), Jet Black spore print!!!!


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: nofind_um]
    #1745938 - 07/24/03 10:14 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the reply zippos....


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: nofind_um]
    #1746030 - 07/24/03 10:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: ]
    #1747469 - 07/25/03 10:26 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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We don't get many people here finding them and posting about it from your state.




-This is the first i have ever heard of Rhode Island Shroomerite picking Pan subbalteatus.

They sure do look like them, and the habitat matches up.
The pictures are not the best, but they must be subbs. (?)

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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1748393 - 07/25/03 03:47 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Great,,,, Now for the good and bad.... My 4 straight days of 100% humidity has gone belly up.. I'm now at about 82 f. and 54% humidity...I'm going back tonight hopefully a few are still around... They were located in a very shady moist area, I think it sees sun in the A.M. and shade in the afternoon... I found a few in the woods today, (just looking off to the side, had a minute at work), LBM's,,, Unknown species,, brown spore print's. Didn't think they were going to be anything.... But they were growing out of some decaying birch, I found them a few days ago when they were pinning, wednesday july 23, and today friday, july 25 they had pretty much run thier cycle.. I was hoping to find the infamous blue foot. (p. caerulipe)no luck.... will post back with results and hopefully better pictures...


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: nofind_um]
    #1750173 - 07/26/03 05:24 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Well I went back to the area, early in the A.M. got up to the fence and what did I see??? The cows were right there bedding down, in the same exact spot I found the mushrooms there were now cows.. I didn't dare start nosing around, that's all I need at 4:00 am is a bunch of cows howling.. Oh well I guess I'll go back later and see how it looks.


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: nofind_um]
    #1773366 - 08/02/03 06:06 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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nofind_um said:
Thanks toxic man. I agree on the amanita, didn't even think about it thanks to posts I read here at the shroomery. It fruited, spored and dissintegrated long ago.
I've been having a good time finding photographing and identifying several types of mushrooms. Here's one I havn't ID'ed yet.. what do you guys think...
It was pretty big like 4 or 5 inches high, and the cap was about 3 in. in diameter. I thought it might be some kind of russela??




I have something like that growing out of my lawn, all over the place. It's got the same pinkish coloring on the stem, same shade of the cap, everything. It's a gilled mushroom, the inside of the stem isn't hollow and isn't solid ... 'stuffed' is the word that comes to mind...gill are, IIRC, attached. Drops a white spore print.


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: Sev]
    #1773903 - 08/02/03 10:20 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Ha,sounds like you've had an interesting adventure,keep tha good work up!And very nice pics.


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Re: some type of pan subb [Re: aminitaman]
    #1775420 - 08/03/03 02:37 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

This thread shows a few pics of pan subbs in situo:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1

The most obvious features of pan subb are the dark spore print and the belting on the cap around the margin (older shrooms). Also note the spotting on the gills and three-tiered gill formation as shown in the closeup image in above thread.



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