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Offlinefoghorn
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Pictures of Saddam's Sons
    #1744493 - 07/24/03 11:58 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Does anyone remember when there was an uproar over the release of footage/pictures of American POW's, at the beginning of the war?





Well, why is it ok to release these pictures.. ?

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1744499 - 07/24/03 12:01 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Perhaps because they aren't POW's?


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1744501 - 07/24/03 12:02 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like those before and after pictures on talk show makeovers...

Good ridance to bad rubish! :devil:


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1744506 - 07/24/03 12:05 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I understand that these were the terrible sons of a pretty terrible person by most people's standards, but I don't think it appropriate to celebrate their deaths as though the Wicked Witch just melted on the sidewalk.



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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1744507 - 07/24/03 12:05 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

shhhhhh, apples and oranges are really the same thing.

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1744533 - 07/24/03 12:12 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Why do you think Uday and Qusay should be treated according to the Geneva convention for prisoners of war?

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: wingnutx]
    #1744537 - 07/24/03 12:13 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

the dead GIs they showed on al jazeera wernt POW's either

i fail to understand how classification of a person (determined by the victors of war, ie. "Enemy Combatants"), and the conditions under which he was killed/died, can determine whether or not pictures of his dead body can be spread freely through the press

i think it is discpicable, and would like to believe that many iraqi's, pro or contra to the Saddams, would be pissed at the arrogance of the American's to release dead photos of their former leaders.

but also yeah, good riddance

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1744548 - 07/24/03 12:15 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

you can show dead people all you like. You cannot put POWs under the spotlight, nor can you kill them once they are POWs.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1744561 - 07/24/03 12:19 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

On the contrary, publication of the pictures proves to the iraqi people that these rapists, murderers and torturers are really dead, they don't have to fear them anymore. That was not 100% certain before. Remember the previous time U.S. troops crossed the iraqi border to fight the regime and then pulled out again?

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1744574 - 07/24/03 12:23 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Of course its okay to release those pics
you know how many americans must have got off on that?

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1744581 - 07/24/03 12:26 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

At least they got their good side. Too bad.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Grav]
    #1744595 - 07/24/03 12:31 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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you know how many americans must have got off on that?




That's a sad thought, Grav. But it's impossible to get everything right. War is always a tragedy for everyone involved.

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1744601 - 07/24/03 12:34 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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the dead GIs they showed on al jazeera wernt POW's either

i fail to understand how classification of a person (determined by the victors of war, ie. "Enemy Combatants"), and the conditions under which he was killed/died, can determine whether or not pictures of his dead body can be spread freely through the press

i think it is discpicable, and would like to believe that many iraqi's, pro or contra to the Saddams, would be pissed at the arrogance of the American's to release dead photos of their former leaders.

but also yeah, good riddance





Yet another person that will find anything to bitch about that the government does. Give me a damn break. We did not want to release these images, but the Iraqis need proof that these guys are dead. They are not POWs, because they were not uniformed soldiers of an army. Bitch about it all you want, it isn't our fault that you 'fail to understand' it. Maybe you can get a tutor or something to help you with that. You can also 'like to think' whatever you want about the Iraqis. I would bet that most of them are glad these guys are dead. These two fuckers were like a real life boogie man to these people. Knowing for sure that they are dead is important to them.

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: shakta]
    #1744633 - 07/24/03 12:47 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: shakta]
    #1744640 - 07/24/03 12:49 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

It is a sad thought...

nothing on that fuckin box gets aired though unless they know there is going to be a huge positive reaction from it.

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: shakta]
    #1744673 - 07/24/03 01:06 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

These two fuckers were like a real life boogie man to these people.

"These people"? How many Iraqi's do you know? Everything you know about the Iraqi people could fit quite comfortably on the back of a postage stamp. With room to spare for your name and address.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Xlea321]
    #1744687 - 07/24/03 01:10 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I have quite a few Iraqi friends actually. So why don't you STFU when you don't know what you are talking about. My neighborhood has quite a few Iraqis, and other Middle Easterners in it that I talk to all the time. One of the ones I am more friendly with is from Basra, and he cried tears of joy when the war started. He is happy Saddam is gone, like most of his countrymen. Fuck off!

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: shakta]
    #1744703 - 07/24/03 01:16 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Calm down, you'll do yourself a mischief.

So when you said "these people" you didn't mean anyone living in Iraq? You meant all these "middle easterners" you allegedly know on your block?

He is happy Saddam is gone, like most of his countrymen

Precisely how many have you asked? Or is this based on the cheering crowd you saw when the statue of Saddam fell? Most iraqis are now without clean water or basic amenities and occupied by a foreign army who slaughtered 750,000 of their children through medieval sanctions policy. Not to mentioned being bombed. That sound like a "happy" situation to you?


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1744732 - 07/24/03 01:25 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Left up to the iraqis they want them hanging in town square.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1745213 - 07/24/03 04:01 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

you're alot of talk shakta

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1745293 - 07/24/03 04:43 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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you're alot of talk shakta




Huh?

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: shakta]
    #1745322 - 07/24/03 04:58 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Please pardon Al, he gets jealous when other people speak for the Iraquis. He thinks that's his job.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Xlea321]
    #1745338 - 07/24/03 05:05 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Well i wasent alive when jack the ripper was, niether am i from that area of world where that happened. But i can infer that many people were deathly scared of him and his spree of killings. Even you must accept that people were afriad of jack the ripper and many wanted him dead. How could someone make this guess and not one about saddam's sons. They were bad people who killed raped and tortued iraqi's on a grand scale. Why is it so hard to understand that maybe people from iraq would want them dead. No one on this board would go to iraq and preform a census of the entire iraqi people about saddam's son's deaths so why are you asking for that. It seems as if your only way to justify your opinon that the war and all of its couterparts is wrong is by asking for evidence that is obviously not obatainable.

If someone told me they were thirsty i would guess they are going to drink something. To prove that my guess is right to you should i send you a videotape of them drinking or is my reasoning enough.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1745403 - 07/24/03 05:27 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Please pardon Al, he gets jealous when other people speak for the Iraquis. He thinks that's his job. 



WHAT!!!!!!

It's not????  :lol:


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1745423 - 07/24/03 05:32 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

He also speaks for elite tactical operators and grunts everywhere. Pretty good trick for a hippy.

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: shakta]
    #1745433 - 07/24/03 05:35 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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I have quite a few Iraqi friends actually. So why don't you STFU when you don't know what you are talking about. My neighborhood has quite a few Iraqis, and other Middle Easterners in it that I talk to all the time. One of the ones I am more friendly with is from Basra, and he cried tears of joy when the war started. He is happy Saddam is gone, like most of his countrymen. Fuck off!




I believe those two fuckers were boogeymen to the Iraqi people, but I've seen different opinions from the Iraqi people from you. Iraq is a large country with 3 distinct peoples and viewpoints differ, but the Arab population (some Iraqi) at my school, U of M--Dearborn (Dearborn has the highest Arab population as a city in the US) were heavily opposed to the invasion. This is particularly true with people who feared for the lives of their families (which is a justified fear, with between 5 and 10,000 innocents killed)


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1745434 - 07/24/03 05:35 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

They released the pictures to simultaneously send a message to sadam and all of the terrorists, and at the same time to fill the void created by the lack of WMDs.

America wanted blood, they got it.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Kiafi]
    #1745452 - 07/24/03 05:40 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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America wanted blood, they got it.




What? The sons were wanted men. Wtf should they do. Let them slide. They were basically second in command. If saddam is killed will you also just say "americans wanted blood"


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #1745492 - 07/24/03 05:49 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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shakta said:
I have quite a few Iraqi friends actually. So why don't you STFU when you don't know what you are talking about. My neighborhood has quite a few Iraqis, and other Middle Easterners in it that I talk to all the time. One of the ones I am more friendly with is from Basra, and he cried tears of joy when the war started. He is happy Saddam is gone, like most of his countrymen. Fuck off!




I believe those two fuckers were boogeymen to the Iraqi people, but I've seen different opinions from the Iraqi people from you. Iraq is a large country with 3 distinct peoples and viewpoints differ, but the Arab population (some Iraqi) at my school, U of M--Dearborn (Dearborn has the highest Arab population as a city in the US) were heavily opposed to the invasion. This is particularly true with people who feared for the lives of their families (which is a justified fear, with between 5 and 10,000 innocents killed)




My friend was happy because he knew that Saddam was finally going to be removed. He did not necessarily like the invasion either, but understood that it was necessary. He owns a tire shop about a mile from my house. A couple of the other guys works at his shop, and I have talked to them a few times. The othe Middle Easterners, or Arabs, whatever you want to call them Alex that I know are from Iran, and Syria.

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: shakta]
    #1746214 - 07/24/03 09:56 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

kiafi: and at the same time to fill the void created by the lack of WMDs.


agreed.
seems like people have already forgotten about all that WMD shit and are now totally focused on the hussein frags.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #1746545 - 07/24/03 11:56 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I believe those two fuckers were boogeymen to the Iraqi people, but I've seen different opinions from the Iraqi people from you. Iraq is a large country with 3 distinct peoples and viewpoints differ, but the Arab population (some Iraqi) at my school, U of M--Dearborn (Dearborn has the highest Arab population as a city in the US) were heavily opposed to the invasion. This is particularly true with people who feared for the lives of their families (which is a justified fear, with between 5 and 10,000 innocents killed)

True.

But remember the vast outpouring of *genuine* Iraqi joy when the statue of Saddam fell  :smirk:


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1746567 - 07/25/03 12:00 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

he gets jealous when other people speak for the Iraquis

Only when it's by some guy who'se only knowledge of Iraq is from Fox news  :smirk:

I have a hard time accepting any right-winger would be objective enough to see through the fog of propaganda on this issue.

Perhaps he saw the cheering crowds around when the statue of Saddam fell. 


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Xlea321]
    #1747283 - 07/25/03 07:06 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

What was wrong with that? You don't think they were happy that Saddam was gone? I am far from a right winger BTW.

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: shakta]
    #1747663 - 07/25/03 10:18 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

You havn't heard the "rejoicing" was staged with "iraqis" flown into Iraq the week before?


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Xlea321]
    #1747666 - 07/25/03 10:19 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

so was the moon landing.

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: wingnutx]
    #1747669 - 07/25/03 10:20 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think so. The people who landed on the moon were white remember.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Xlea321]
    #1747942 - 07/25/03 11:51 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

i thought they were green... :confused:


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Xlea321]
    #1748244 - 07/25/03 01:04 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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You havn't heard the "rejoicing" was staged with "iraqis" flown into Iraq the week before?




I have also heard that we staged 9/11, I give this about as much credence.

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: shakta]
    #1748263 - 07/25/03 01:10 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Well you should give it more cus it was true.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: foghorn]
    #1748283 - 07/25/03 01:15 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Great we killed his songs,and now we can see there dead pictures. Great. Who cares.

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1748318 - 07/25/03 01:26 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Well you should give it more cus it was true. 




Your kidding right? :rolleyes:

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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: shakta]
    #1748521 - 07/25/03 02:22 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Azmodeus said:
Well you should give it more cus it was true. 




Your kidding right? :rolleyes: 




Well kinda...the people might have been glad saddam was out, but they selected the crowd, it was like a movie shoot. :tongue:


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Xlea321]
    #1749346 - 07/25/03 07:46 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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he gets jealous when other people speak for the Iraquis

Only when it's by some guy who'se only knowledge of Iraq is from Fox news  :smirk:

I have a hard time accepting any right-winger would be objective enough to see through the fog of propaganda on this issue.
 




so are left-wingers given special goggles to see through this fog once they sign up or do they have this ability from birth.


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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: d33p]
    #1750007 - 07/26/03 01:00 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I just find it amusing how easy it is to manipulate Bush-munchers into demonising people. You could easily portray countless US backed and supported leaders as vicious torturers and genocidal murderers, far worse than Uday. But they're ok to fund and arm for some reason. It's only the ones Bush tells you are "bad" that shakta wants to torture and kill.

Check out a man called Suharto if you really want to know about torture and mass-murder. And check out who his best buddies were.

http://www.house.gov/bernie/statements/1998-05-13-suharto.html

END U.S. SUPPORT FOR SUHARTO DICTATORSHIP IN INDONESIA

Mr. Speaker, the time is now to end U.S. support for the Suharto dictatorship in Indonesia. I will be sending a letter to the President tomorrow with a number of signatures from my colleagues to urge him to help us do that.

History has taught us that it is not in the best interest of this country or for the people of affected countries that the United States back corrupt, authoritarian regimes whose leaders are opposed by the vast majority of their people.

It was wrong for us to have supported the Mobuto government in Zaire, the Saddam Hussein government in Iraq, the Noriega government in Panama, and many other dictatorships that we have backed over the years. It is wrong for us to support the Suharto government today.

As a result of our support for these corrupt and detested governments, our credibility in the world community suffers and our commitment to freedom and human rights is rightfully challenged.

As you know, Mr. Speaker, General Suharto is currently in his seventh 5-year term at the helm of the Government in Indonesia, which, according to the most recent U.S. State Department report on human rights, `remains strongly authoritarian.' That is from the U.S. State Department.

This same report states that in 1997 the Suharto government `continued to commit serious human rights abuses' and `demonstrated that it would not tolerate challenges to the fundamental elements of the political system by arresting and placing on trial some of its critics.'

The State Department report documents Suharto's failure to allow free and fair elections in Indonesia in the most recent elections, just as he has done in the previous five held since 1971.

Today, the leader of the free trade union movement in Indonesia, Muchtar Pahpahan, remains in jail because of his radical belief that workers in this country have the right of freedom of association.

Further, General Suharto is widely acknowledged to be a dictator with an enormous amount of blood on his hands. In 1965, when he toppled General Sukarno as leader of Indonesia, it is estimated that some half million Indonesians were killed. Half a million, one of the great slaughters in modern history.

In East Timor, it is believed General Suharto's decisions have led to the deaths of 200,000 people or one-third, one-third of East Timor's population. Just yesterday, six unarmed students were shot down in cold blood by the Suharto military for protesting against the dictatorship. Recent testimony before Congress shows that Suharto's government is currently disappearing and torturing hundreds of its opponents.

General Suharto is known, not only for his brutality, but for his corruption and his greed. He is the sixth wealthiest person in the world, and it is estimated that his family is worth between $30 billion and $40 billion. This wealth has been accumulated in a country where the average income is less than $20 a week and where child labor is widespread.

The Suharto family owns much of Indonesia's wealth, and they have strong control over the economy there. It is widely acknowledged the Suharto family makes huge sums of money by running cartels and receiving bribes and kickbacks in perhaps the outstanding international example of crony capitalism.

Every day, more and more Indonesians are showing extraordinary courage and are putting their lives on the line by standing up to the Suharto dictatorship. Not only have tens of thousands of Indonesian students taken to the streets, but even retired generals and former cabinet ministers are now calling for General Suharto's ouster. Mr. Amien Rais, a prominent Muslim leader, recently said, `I urge the government of President Suharto to step down, as the people demand.' If the brave people of Indonesia are prepared to risk their lives to demand that General Suharto step aside, how can we ignore their cries for freedom?

It is important that we act soon. If General Suharto understands that we no longer support him, and international support for his regime is fading, it is far more likely that he will give up power soon, avoiding unnecessary bloodshed. In other words, the sooner that the United States tells Suharto that we will not support him, the more likely it is that he will perhaps flee his country and prevent the widespread bloodshed that might otherwise happen.

In my view, the President must utilize all diplomatic tools available to expedite the replacement of the Suharto dictatorship with a democratically elected government. Such steps should include but not be limited to immediate contact by Secretary of Defense Cohen with the Indonesian military, urging them not to use their guns against their own people.

The immediate freeze on all US weapons, spare parts and ammunition sales to Indonesia, including the financing of dual-use technologies through the Export-Import Bank.

In conjunction with the United Nations, dispatch an emergency relief group composed of non-governmental representatives, including human rights and famine-relief groups, to monitor the military and provide relief to famine stricken areas of East Timor and Indonesia.

Suspend further IMF loans to Indonesia until fundamental human rights are established under a new government.

Mr. Speaker, you have the opportunity to send a message to the Indonesian people and the entire world that the United States will not support dictators who deny their people basic human rights. The time to act is now.




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Re: Pictures of Saddam's Sons [Re: Xlea321]
    #1750150 - 07/26/03 03:02 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, and the United States even sent weapons to Stalin on several occasions.

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    #1750417 - 07/26/03 09:47 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Not quite the same thing.


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    #1750496 - 07/26/03 10:55 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Not quite the same thing.




Not even when Stalin used some of those weapons to massacre soviet citizens for no other reason than the fact that they wanted to be free and live in peace? Are you sure you wouldn't have opposed that use of american weapons if you had been alive at the time?

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    #1750665 - 07/26/03 12:09 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Do you mean during World War II? 

Where is this bizarre "point" going? Do you feel that supporting Suharto was as worthy a cause as defeating Hitler?  :confused:


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    #1750674 - 07/26/03 12:15 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, World War II. The war in which Stalin made territorial conquests and slaughtered many of his own citizens.

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