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Offlinequarkyquasar
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Spawn Bag casing
    #1743753 - 07/24/03 05:47 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Hello, My friend is a newbie to casing tek.
He knows the procedure for casing pretty well, and has read the FAQ's. Loric has decided to go with a presealable filterpatch spawnbag from micronmagick. He will be using a grain substrate.

Now, Loric was wondering if it is better to cut the bags open a few inches above the substrate when ready to case, then use the bag as a tray to help prevent contamination? If so, is it a good idea to wrap sides of bag with tin foil to prevent pins from forming there?

Or crumble and spread into separate container then case as per usual methods and teks?

Loric has noticed the Information on casing is 95% geared toward Jars, and this has made it harder to find first hand accounts of Spawn bag techniques. Anyone using this method or experienced in bags please speak up, (Including MicronMagick) He really would love some tips or Links here. Thanks for any help offered.



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Re: Spawn Bag casing [Re: quarkyquasar]
    #1743759 - 07/24/03 05:57 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

In relation to casing, it doesn't matter whether the grain was colonized in bags, jars, or hollowed out coconuts.

Concerning jars, you will notice that casing involves getting the spawn from the jar into a tray/container of some description. So the info. geared towards jars also extends to bags and hollowed out coconuts.

However, there is no significant reason why you can't case a bag, by putting the casing material into the bag and blocking light getting to the main substrate.

But, I feel it may be more trouble than its worth, particularly when it comes to fruiting. Ideally for a casing you would want a stable base. And in my view getting spawn from a bag into a container is a lot easier than getting spawn from a jar into a container.


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Re: Spawn Bag casing [Re: Jackal]
    #1743767 - 07/24/03 06:03 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

The exposure of the spawn when transfering to a container is not something to worry about? Just seemed less risk of contamination if left in the bag.
I am sure stability could be achieved. If the setup is geared to that purpose from the start.


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Re: Spawn Bag casing [Re: quarkyquasar]
    #1743769 - 07/24/03 06:11 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It is something to worry about, and has no doubt brought a premature end to many of the projects people have undertaken. Keeping the spawn in the bag will decrease the likelihood of contams.

In a clean environment and using common sense you should be OK. The transfer from bag to container is a single step which with haste can be achieved in about a minute


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Re: Spawn Bag casing [Re: Jackal]
    #1743777 - 07/24/03 06:34 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

One possible disadvantage to leaving in the bag is not being able to use some casing on the bottom. He is not sure if that technique is better or not though. Any thoughts on that?

Also the surface area would be less as opposed to a rectangular tray. Was planning 4 bags inocculated with 4cc each. Transfered to 2 trays.

Perhaps spawn more bags for better odds, then experiement with both systems. 2 trays and 2 bags. How many bags do you think I should start with to attain that goal? Taking into account previous cake success.


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Re: Spawn Bag casing [Re: quarkyquasar]
    #1743902 - 07/24/03 09:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Don't worry about transfering spawn to a casing tray, that is not what will get contaminated. There are very few contams that are agressive enough to grow on 100% colonized substrate because the mycelium kills them. The contamination problems you should worry about will be ascossiated with the casing layer. Even though it is a "non-nutritive" layer, plenty of shit still seems to like to live on it.


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Re: Spawn Bag casing [Re: lemunhed]
    #1745826 - 07/24/03 09:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Don't worry about transfering spawn to a casing tray, that is not what will get contaminated. There are very few contams that are agressive enough to grow on 100% colonized substrate because the mycelium kills them. The contamination problems you should worry about will be ascossiated with the casing layer. Even though it is a "non-nutritive" layer, plenty of shit still seems to like to live on it. 




Hmm in my expirence ive always had contams come from deep within the caseing... ive never had a contam start in the casing layer.... it always started in the bottem of the tray.....
i would make the transfer in a glovebox or flowhood....

oh, and could you please send a link to the hollowed out coconut tek?
ive gotten nothing but contamination every time i used hollowed out coconuts... im starting to think that its a bad idea... perhaps my pH was off....

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