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OfflineStatic
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The World Trade Center Demolition
    #1742140 - 07/23/03 08:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The World Trade Center Demolition and the So-Called War on Terrorism

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." ? Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II



1. Introduction
On September 11th, 2001, the 28th anniversary of the CIA-directed military coup d'etat in Chile, terrorists (but not Arab terrorists) took control of four planes and (according to the official story) crashed two of them into the World Trade Center towers, causing fires within. Again according to the official story (pre-written and rushed into print in the mainstream media immediately after the events, together with the identity of the alleged culprit) the fires then caused the steel girders to melt and the towers to collapse.
But, as will be shown below, the Twin Towers did not collapse because of the plane impacts and the fires. The most likely explanation is that explosives were placed besides their structural supports at numerous levels in the towers, explosives which were detonated 56 and 104 minutes after the planes hit, bringing the towers down in controlled implosions, killing several thousand American citizens and others.

The Twin Towers were designed to survive the impact of a Boeing 707, which in weight, size and speed is similar to a Boeing 767 (the kind of jet which hit the South Tower). Had one of the towers collapsed, that would have been amazing. That both of them collapsed, quickly, neatly and symmetrically (without falling over onto the surrounding buildings in Manhattan's financial district), collapsed completely into fragments, ash and huge clouds of dust ? with no remains of their central massive vertical steel columns left standing ? solely as a result of the plane impacts and the resulting fires, is, upon examination, unbelievable, despite what the so-called "experts" say.


Due to the astuteness of some Americans, who thought hard about the U.S. government's explanation of the events of September 11th, the official story quickly began to unravel. The big lie has been revealed for what it is (but word of this has not yet reached most people). And the reason for it. If you don't already know, this page will inform you as to what really happened and what's really going on. As in the "War on Drugs", in the "War on Terrorism" just say 'Know'.

An early version of this web page (to mid-October 2001) supported the thesis that the terrorist attacks of September 11th were carried out by Arab hijackers but that the operation was actually an inside job (that is, so-called Americans planned and directed it). There were always problems with the "Arab hijackers" theory, but since only those ready to die for their cause would deliberately kill themselves by flying planes into the Twin Towers there seemed no alternative. New evidence, however, emerged, and it now seems that it was entirely an inside job, the only Arabs involved being those set up to take the blame. Hard to believe, perhaps (especially because of the constant repetition in the mainstream media, in the weeks following the event, of the term "suicide attack"). Shocking, yes. But if one looks at the evidence, and thinks about it, this is what emerges.

Until February 2002 the author of this page believed that part of the official story which asserted that the four "hijacked" Boeings all crashed as stated (two into the Twin Towers, one into the Pentagon and one in a field in Pennsylvania). New evidence suggests that in fact only one of these Boeings crashed ? the one that crashed in Pennsylvania. (What happened to the other three planes, and their passengers, will be revealed below.) In the light of this new evidence this web page underwent a major revision in early April 2002. Evidence which has come to light since then strongly suggests that, as is common in coups, generals were involved, and the possibility has emerged that the Twin Towers were wired for demolition well in advance of September 11th. Accordingly this web page underwent a major revision in late August 2002.

The implications of this analysis are disturbing, but to ignore them (or the evidence itself) would be an attempt at denial which would constitute a surrender to evil. In this matter anyone with any degree of moral awareness will want to know the truth, however unpalatable or unflattering to national leaders. Continued willful ignorance on the part of the American people may result in slavery for all people everywhere, following death and destruction of a magnitude far greater than that of World War II.

Read more here


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: Static]
    #1742213 - 07/23/03 08:32 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, OK!


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: Static]
    #1742219 - 07/23/03 08:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

hahahahahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahaahahahaahaha!!!!!


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: Static]
    #1742402 - 07/23/03 09:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Dang, I'm convinced.


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: Static]
    #1742429 - 07/23/03 09:28 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Good one! :lol:

...err, that was the joke of the day, no?


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: Static]
    #1742585 - 07/23/03 10:08 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

What Really Happened.com

one of my favorite bookmarks.


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1742994 - 07/23/03 11:53 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

DoctorJ said:
What Really Happened.com

one of my favorite bookmarks.




I'm sorry.


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Offlinepattern
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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: Static]
    #1743094 - 07/24/03 12:24 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

  it was entirely an inside job, the only Arabs involved being those set up to take the blame




:thumbdown: wow, thats the worst theory I've ever heard. 


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: pattern]
    #1743098 - 07/24/03 12:26 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, they had no idea they were going to die when they piloted the planes into the buildings. What a setup!


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1743832 - 07/24/03 08:21 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Have you ever checked out WhatDIDN'TReallyHappen.com ? It will change your mind about the worth of one of your favorite bookmarks.

http://mckinneysucks.blogspot.com/

pinky


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: Static]
    #1743839 - 07/24/03 08:33 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

oh lord, not another one. Go away.


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: Static]
    #1743867 - 07/24/03 09:11 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

There was a time when I was interested in the conspiracy theories but it went away. I don't believe them and I don't not believe them. It's just that I don't really know what happened there and I never will. It's stupid to fantasize all day about stuff that doesn't really affect my life.

That and the fact that if you believe a conspiracy theory you will get laughed at.


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: ]
    #1743932 - 07/24/03 09:34 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Your right. Believing any one of the conspiracy theories is almost as dumb as believing the official version of events. Almost, but not quite! :grin:   


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: Phred]
    #1743968 - 07/24/03 09:58 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Why would it change anyones mind? It just alot more unsubstantiated claim and counter claim.


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: GazzBut]
    #1744432 - 07/24/03 01:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I like the comparison of conspiracy to offical report!..cant believe either.


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Re: The World Trade Center Demolition [Re: Static]
    #1744476 - 07/24/03 01:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

While I do believe that Bush knew fully of the attacks that were about to happen, I don't believe that the U.S. actually perpetrated the attacks on itself....although it would certainly explain why not even ONE of the names on ANY of the passenger lists is Arabic...


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    #1749667 - 07/26/03 12:21 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I watched the whole day unfold.
I have also done quite a bit of demolition work(We blew the Blythe arena in squaw valley and did a whole 3corner block on market street in frisco).
I saw the additional charges explode in the floors below the south tower and then watched a picture perfect implosion.
Both buildings perfectly and completely destroyed by "random" sited impacts by planes not large enough to supposedly even topple them.
I have also watched as we have bombed mud and plaster buildings with 2million dollar cruise missles and seen walls and remaining structure remain standing.
I would seriously be interested in one of you folks who have swallowed the load of shit you've been fed about the WTC buildings fate addressing scientificly and believably  the perfectly matching collapse of two buildings resulting from "random" impacts by objects they were specificly designed to survive?
I have seen a lot of Pshaw and Shucks over the original post as the apologists POO-POO the FACT that those buildings were in fact DEMOLISHED!But what anyone who has ever done it knows and many others who actualy witnessed the charges being set off is that no airplane is responsible for all the events of 9-11.
I do not claim to have any other "Knowlege" or subscribe to any particular theory of who in fact is ultimatly responsible.
I claim that I know without any doubt or reservation that those buildings were puposely demolished with the greatest expertise and precision.
Now to my challenge to you apologists,explain it away,but try to make some freaking sense.Since it is already known that even burning in a stoichiometric ratio jet fuel is not hot enough to even significantly weaken the steel of the building and most of the fuel did not even remain IN the second tower.Please justify logicly how these bulidings fell as they did.
If you cannot perhaps you should in fact investigate further than what you've been fed.
WR:rasta: 


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Re: ! [Re: whiterasta]
    #1750016 - 07/26/03 03:04 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Just to add to your argument, there were significant seismic readings recorded fractions of a second before the towers collapsed, just like the detonation for a planned implosion. But don't listen to me I'm just a crazy conspiracy theorist. :rolleyes: :shake: 


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Re: ! [Re: whiterasta]
    #1750142 - 07/26/03 04:54 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

No one believing it doesn't have to do with what actually happened. It's because when you start talking about our own government doing something negative against it's own people, it sounds downright crazy! I mean, look what the outcome of the attacks were, a WAR ON TERRORISM (War on the american people, just like the War on drugs). No one wants to be a conspiracy nut though. Take a valium and a prozac and repeat after me, the government isn't out to get you.

Truly believing our own government was behind 911 is taking that next step from thinking our government plain sucks to thinking that it's evil. The rational thinkers minds just won't permit them to go to that point, because they need to live in that safe world of theirs.

I don't know what happened but I wouldn't be shocked if the US government was behind it. I don't trust the US government anymore than any other government in the history of the world. They all have the potential for evil and some are better at hiding it. What makes this country great is that there is so much difference in opinions. I know there are people out there that blindly love our country and government and to think the US was behind the terrorist attacks would seem crazy.


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Re:You can't be serious [Re: whiterasta]
    #1750207 - 07/26/03 06:27 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

whiterasta writes:

I claim that I know without any doubt or reservation that those buildings were puposely demolished with the greatest expertise and precision.

I want to make 100% sure I am not misreading you -- you are saying the reason the two towers collapsed is that there were explosive charges already concealed in them before the planes impacted. These charges were then detonated hours after the impacts.

Am I misrepresenting your claim in any way?

pinky


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