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Psilocybe friscosa (allenii) or..?
    #17353442 - 12/08/12 01:05 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Hello,

Can anybody make a positive ID on these? I think they are psilocybe allenii or cyans, but I'm hoping for a few more opinions. Don't want a galerina around, but judging by the spore print I don't think it is. I've looked at other forums regarding this but I just want to make sure. Thank you, any knowledge would be greatly appreciated.





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Re: Psilocybe allenii or..? [Re: crunchysoups]
    #17353507 - 12/08/12 01:30 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Leave your prints longer. Im pretty sure those are what you're looking for.  Is there Dark black/blue bruising?

Wash those babies off! Spread the water to other chips.


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Re: Psilocybe allenii or..? [Re: TheShroomNinja]
    #17353515 - 12/08/12 01:32 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I have no idea if they are or not but I do see what appears to be bruising in picture number 3.


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Re: Psilocybe allenii or..? [Re: TheShroomNinja]
    #17353551 - 12/08/12 01:42 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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TheShroomNinja said:
Leave your prints longer. Im pretty sure those are what you're looking for.  Is there Dark black/blue bruising?

Wash those babies off! Spread the water to other chips.



Forgot to add, yes - dark blue bruising on stems. Haha, and yeah they need a good cleaning for sure.


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Re: Psilocybe allenii or..? [Re: crunchysoups]
    #17354391 - 12/08/12 09:22 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Might even be ovoideocystidiata, but wait for input from those with more experience.


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Re: Psilocybe allenii or..? [Re: suchen]
    #17354489 - 12/08/12 09:59 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Here we go, another spore print left overnight



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Re: Psilocybe allenii or..? [Re: crunchysoups]
    #17355328 - 12/08/12 01:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Forgot to mention; I found them on the north side of a work complex, underneath a eucalyptus tree. They were growing a very rotted wood chip substrate - most of it looked like it had decayed into dirt, but the mycelium was attached to the chips themselves.

And by the way, thanks for your responses! I feed off new brain material.


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Re: Psilocybe allenii or..? [Re: crunchysoups]
    #17355412 - 12/08/12 01:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Nice find, i grabbed a nice
Patch in the dark a week
Back and thought they were bad cause they had retained so much water they fell apart.
Time to return to this place


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Re: Psilocybe allenii or..? [Re: MayDai]
    #17419417 - 12/19/12 09:48 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

They kinda look like the psilocibin baeystis.  My friend found 27 of those only they were in both his newly sodded lawn and some in the mulched garden at his home in Federal Way south of Seattle near the SeaTac International Airport. 

He was not able to tell me what kinda mulch was in the garden around his home and along the sidewalk.  He first noticed them  growing around his wife's newly planted Rose Garden bushes where they were growing and the ones in the garden grew diametrically around the outer edge of the bush and from there he picked 8 mushrooms from his wife's rose bush. 

He had told me in the fall about his wife digging up the dirt in the yard and sowing the seeds in cotton soaked in natural spring water, then planted them in the late spring or so.

During the hot summer, several if the plants dehydrated  died and she was constantly pruning them so they were about 2-3 feet tall and had several boughs with Roses

Others were in his un-mowed lawn. He said he based his identification of the mushrooms from what he told me was a perfect sketch of the very mushrooms he found.

It seems that his identification came from the description of the particular mushroom and my friend said it was the first time he found a magic mushroom using someone's field guide for identification purposes.  Adding he could not believe it was that simple.  Now he is a nut, always buying new mushroom books and he and he bought a mushroom growing box for some edible mushrooms.

The sketch he used to id the mushrooms was from a book by Gary Menzer's field guide for hallucinogenic and poisonous mushrooms.  That book help guide him to a safe place.

This was in late September. He noted that the cap had a little pointed tip like a lead pencil and it was exactly on the top center of the cap.  He said the brownish color of the cap made it look really cool and the cap was evenly distributed from the nipple in the center to the edge of the cap which he said kinda dropped off straight down the side from the cap  about a 1/4 inch. and it was  somewhat pleated, like a Catholic school girl's required dress code school uniform. 

Such short skirts are common and usually Plaid and Pleated as well and always just above or below the knew. and the hemlines are usually pleated. 

Another thing he noticed was the size of the cap.  Especially the ones growing around the rose bush.  Most of the ones around the bush were the size of a quarter. There were two in the lawn that he picked that had unopened caps but he said that the pleats were visible and both turned into a dark jet blue ink on the stalk of the mushroom after he picked them.

The stems in the lawn ones were gnarly and a little twisted, but the caps Pleats could be seen and after picking, within ten minutes he said he watched as the caps changed colors really fast and there were areas that were various shades of green to blue green and some tan from the yellow straw color when the mushroom is handled or when it is old but wet they could be soggy like yours are in your pictures.. 

My friend told me he ate two and he said that those two were enough for him this year.

And that was in late September. 

I think he had a serious religious experience from those two mushrooms he ate because when I saw him one day in September he came upon me in a field where I found a whole fresh ounce of liberty caps in a sheep field.  The sheep eat the grass and so the mushrooms only grow to about three inches tall.  And I could see the ones near me.  Someone made a loud noise and I ducked down to hide, and it was my friend.

I am glad he was sure of his find. I would feel real bad if he ate a wrong mushroom. 

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Re: Psilocybe allenii or..? [Re: meat_master_king]
    #17419429 - 12/19/12 09:51 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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They kinda look like the psilocibin baeystis.




Nah, too large for those, and the cap margin is too smooth, and the pileus is too dark.  Also the gills are different.  They are Psilocybe allenii, named after your friend John Allen.


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Re: Psilocybe allenii or..? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #17419502 - 12/19/12 10:03 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Ps. Allenii, ovoideocystidiata would look a but lighter and would also have some remains of the cortinal veil.
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