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ItsScience
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Should I send to FSRE?
#17379295 - 12/12/12 10:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright guys, you know the drill, long time reader, first time poster; but first off, thank you all so much for the wealth of information you have made available about my new hobby! This is going to be a little long winded, but unfortunately it has to be to make sense.
OK, so: For my first grow I sent off for some spores to FSRE, and to my surprise I got two prints back (my #2 and #3) Pensacola and B+, respectively. I became enthralled with the Pensacola pictures on the FSRE website ( http://fsre.nl/home/?p=240 )so I decided to make that my first go. Opened up the print to make a couple of syringes and the print was AWFUL, like really bad. Super faint to the point that you could hardly see it, and tiny to boot. It was just horrible, and of course being an over eager noob, I decided to use it against my better judgement anyway. I made two syringes, and had to use the whole thing, and for the second syringe I ended up having to use my water to try and wash any and all spores off the print to get anything of visible use. I then proceeded to make 12 BRF Cakes.
Not surprisingly out of the the 12, one had Trich, so I booted that guy. Then of the 11 remaining only six colonized, and saying the colonized was a stretch, only one or two of the inoculation points worked, and then they stalled after about three weeks. I am guessing it is because of the terrible spores, packed too tight, and because I thought it would be a good idea to put them directly a HydroMat to try and keep them above 70 deg. so I am pretty sure they got roached from heat. (Sorry RR, no wood stove, or any ability to really get my house above 70 without spending too much money on heating, so I chose incubation (which I now have fixed and working flawlessly, but I was still learning at this point))
After a month of stalling, again being an impatient noob, I decided to try and salvage my Pensacola grow, so I pulled the cakes cleaned off everything that wasn't colonized, and put them through the cheese grater for spawn. Bulk subed and cased with Coir/Verm a la ( http://www.shroomery.org/10858/How-to-do-Coir )
To my surprise after putting my new tray in my now functioning and temperature regulated incubator it went crazy, and in four days it was ready for the FC.
Put it in, had my lightbulb too close and roasted the top, moved it and kept misting, and at about 13 days I got pins. They were done about five days later and didn't seem to big, and certainly didn't look a thing like the picture. I pulled them, and made five prints (the largest cap was about 2.5" across).
Here is the dilemma: Do I send back three of my prints? Do you think they didn't end up looking like the pics on the FSRE website because of my mostly failed everything? (Currently it's stalled out again on the second flush) Do I try to grow it again in WBS to see if I get a different result (Currently I am on the B+ which is happily doing it's thing in a coco/verm tray), and then if it works out send those prints back? The pins looked like the pictures, but not the full grown mushies.
Check my pictures, let me know what you think. The last thing I want to do is send back a print labeled as Pensacola and let the disappointment spread.




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Synchro



Registered: 02/26/12
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Re: Should I send to FSRE? [Re: ItsScience]
#17379368 - 12/12/12 11:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Most cube strains will display a number of different phenotypes. It's random, too. The reason it doesn't look like the photo is genetic. Don't pay too much attention to strain names. Most cubes are the same save a few like PE. They can grow out to show a bunch of different traits that have nothing to do w/ its spore race.
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Re: Should I send to FSRE? [Re: Synchro]
#17379379 - 12/12/12 11:14 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Synchro said: Most cube strains will display a number of different phenotypes. It's random, too. The reason it doesn't look like the photo is genetic. Don't pay too much attention to strain names. Most cubes are the same save a few like PE. They can grow out to show a bunch of different traits that have nothing to do w/ its spore race.
the fun part about cubes, is growing a bunch of ms grows out, till you find the one shroom you really dig the looks of, than cloning it, and tryin gto sector out and iso that grows out something similiar to what you originally wanted
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ItsScience
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Re: Should I send to FSRE? [Re: Montock]
#17379522 - 12/12/12 11:42 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Montock said:
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Synchro said: Most cube strains will display a number of different phenotypes. It's random, too. The reason it doesn't look like the photo is genetic. Don't pay too much attention to strain names. Most cubes are the same save a few like PE. They can grow out to show a bunch of different traits that have nothing to do w/ its spore race.
the fun part about cubes, is growing a bunch of ms grows out, till you find the one shroom you really dig the looks of, than cloning it, and tryin gto sector out and iso that grows out something similiar to what you originally wanted
Alright, I won't stress then! God, I am so pumped that this is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm already outgrowing my souped up PMP and am day dreaming of a nice GH setup, and then I get to start cloning and shit?! It just gets better and better.
Cheers!
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Re: Should I send to FSRE? [Re: ItsScience]
#19483509 - 01/27/14 08:46 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sounds like a cube miracle to me.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Should I send to FSRE? [Re: Elston Gunn]
#19483607 - 01/27/14 09:09 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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The chances of being able to identify a non-albino or non PE variety of cube from one another is nearly completely random. The fact is that cubes of any variety from a MS grow will look like cubes, Theres some varieties that have been isolated down through mass generations of spore to spore grows to limit heterozygotes and have more homozygoticity hence on average a displayed phenotype occuring more often as in PE variety or albino variety. but any other cube is going to look so much like an average cube you're chances of labeling it's variety correctly are as good as random at best.
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