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Offlineusudor
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Re: Woke up with my mom crying, betting me to go to AA at 11 [Re: st1llnox]
    #17360381 - 12/09/12 11:37 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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usudor said:
AA is a joke if you dont wanna quit then you wont and your just going to meet more and more hookups at those meetings.

so quit if you wanna make progress in life or just keeping using and wash out.




Ugh you sound like the people in AA, sans berating it. I think it is a joke and it hurts their members worse long-term.



So says somebody who still lives in his parents' house and can't stop getting fucked up.  You know fuck all about life.




Well, someone woke up on the charming side of the bed today, eh? There are a LOT of assumptions being cast in this post... a LOT, including
1) that I live with my parents (I'm back from college, quite different)
2) that I can't stop getting fucked up





maybe you should go read some of ellenaliens post's and learn what it means to really not be able to stop getting fucked up.

im not sure if posting in this thread is worth it anymore.


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You'll see an classic example of real world exponential decay when a first year engineering course shrinks into a second year course and even more by third year. - Chem E prof


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OfflineEnvix
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Re: Woke up with my mom crying, betting me to go to AA at 11 [Re: Envix] * 1
    #17360388 - 12/09/12 11:38 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

here's my revised list of the 12 step program. hope ya'll enjoy! :biggrin:

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1:    we must admit that drinking/taking drugs is not our own decision, these chemical demons force themselves upon people to the point where they're no longer in control of their own lives.

2:    we do not have the power to decide the fate of our own lives, for this reason we must believe there is a power greater than us that can guide us in the right direction

3:    turn your life over to god. only god can save you. pray to god to relinquish the drug demons' grasps on your life.

4:    make a list of all the bad things you've done in your life

5:    tell god why you've done bad things in your life

6:    beg god to correct your behavior for you, thus relinquishing all responsibility for your own actions

7:    beg god for forgiveness

8:    make a list of people you've harmed

9:    try to set things right with the people you've harmed

10:    keep updating that checklist of bad shit you do. perhaps we can guilt-trip you into becoming a christian

11:    keep praying to god some more to remove all personal responsibility from your life, and give your complete control and free will over to god so that he may correct your disgusting human habits

12:    become a born-again christian




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Re: Woke up with my mom crying, betting me to go to AA at 11 [Re: Shroomslip]
    #17360398 - 12/09/12 11:41 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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They only like 'outsiders' when you agree with them and suck ass. If you don't humble yourself and throw yourself at the mercy of God and beg to be helped, they ostracize you, treat you like you're beneath them and as if you're a worthless piece of shit.

This is pretty much the attitude I've seen of EVERY SINGLE AA member I've ever met, and my entire family is a bunch of alcoholics, trust me I've seen my fair share outside of the above mentioned group.




Sounds about right.


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OfflineTr1p4Kn0wl3dg3
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Re: Woke up with my mom crying, betting me to go to AA at 11 [Re: Shroomslip]
    #17360432 - 12/09/12 11:48 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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AA will only ever work if you genuinely want it to work. Then again, most any rehab program will. It's not like AA is some miracle program that's a cut above the rest. Actually I've met quite a few drug counselors who advise away from it.

I agree with it being a cult... Just cuz it works for some people doesn't mean it's not one. I was forced into another rehab program with close ties to AA (most of the people in this class went to the same AA class, the instructor was the AA instructor, they treated it almost exactly like AA/NA) while on probation.

They only like 'outsiders' when you agree with them and suck ass. If you don't humble yourself and throw yourself at the mercy of God and beg to be helped, they ostracize you, treat you like you're beneath them and as if you're a worthless piece of shit.

This is pretty much the attitude I've seen of EVERY SINGLE AA member I've ever met, and my entire family is a bunch of alcoholics, trust me I've seen my fair share outside of the above mentioned group.





I've experienced just that when I went to my first meetings.  I'm required to go to 3 meetings a week (I go to NA) and it is the biggest load of horseshit. 
That and it seems like now these people have turned to God rather than drugs, they all got a drawn out speech and have "expert" advice to give.
It's people trading one crutch for another, this other being religion.  I can see where religion is much better crutch for some of these people, for they have absolutely nothing in their lives to cling to, but the way they force their own beliefs down your throat is ridiculous.
I just sit in the background and watch these people until I can get my paper signed and bail.


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-Bill Hicks, Just for Laughs Comedy Festival, 1990

“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”
― Jimi Hendrix

"Drugs have taught an entire generation of American kids the metric system". … P.J. O’Rourke


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Re: Woke up with my mom crying, betting me to go to AA at 11 [Re: st1llnox]
    #17360446 - 12/09/12 11:50 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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And I was all out of drugs and alcohol; had no way to cope.

I feel like my main problem with drugs is that my parents have a problem with them.




i remember being 15 too. Parents just dont understand.


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Re: Woke up with my mom crying, betting me to go to AA at 11 [Re: st1llnox]
    #17360470 - 12/09/12 11:54 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I've been needing to get a handle on my drinking (no pun intended) and my friend suggested AA.
This thread is making me not want to try AA.
I absolutely refuse to admit the existence, much less throw myself at the mercy, of any type of deity because I'm not a fucking moron.
So if that's my mentality, I'll be outcast from AA?  What a bunch of assholes if that's true.


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Re: Woke up with my mom crying, betting me to go to AA at 11 [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #17360501 - 12/09/12 11:59 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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abltsandwich said:
I've been needing to get a handle on my drinking (no pun intended) and my friend suggested AA.
This thread is making me not want to try AA.
I absolutely refuse to admit the existence, much less throw myself at the mercy, of any type of deity because I'm not a fucking moron.
So if that's my mentality, I'll be outcast from AA?  What a bunch of assholes if that's true.




just stop buying alcohol. its not rocket science keep yourself busy and you'll have less of an urge to drink after awhile


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What are you going to do with your liberal arts degree? Write a 3rd person narrative about why you like playing with yourself in the mid-morning, instead of the afternoon, because you can't find a fuckin' job? --Captain Ahab
You'll see an classic example of real world exponential decay when a first year engineering course shrinks into a second year course and even more by third year. - Chem E prof


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OfflineTr1p4Kn0wl3dg3
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Re: Woke up with my mom crying, betting me to go to AA at 11 [Re: abltsandwich]
    #17360531 - 12/09/12 12:04 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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abltsandwich said:
I've been needing to get a handle on my drinking (no pun intended) and my friend suggested AA.
This thread is making me not want to try AA.
I absolutely refuse to admit the existence, much less throw myself at the mercy, of any type of deity because I'm not a fucking moron.
So if that's my mentality, I'll be outcast from AA?  What a bunch of assholes if that's true.




I don't think all AA/NA groups are so intolerant of others with different beliefs.  I live in Virginia, a state with churches every few miles and almost every meeting I could find is held in a church.  A friend of mine in California, on the other hand, goes to NA meetings held at a firehouse, and rather than saying "you need God to overcome this disease!" they say "find a higher power, whether it's something within yourself or in religion."

I personally don't think AA will do you much good unless you truly want to quit drinking altogether, and have no one else in your life to turn to.  If you really want to get a handle on your drinking or just quit, I'd turn to friends or family first.  AA seems like a last resort for those with nowhere else to go... Just my opinion though.


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"I loved when Bush came out and said, "We are losing the war against drugs." You know what that implies? There's a war being fought, and the people on drugs are winning it."
-Bill Hicks, Just for Laughs Comedy Festival, 1990

“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”
― Jimi Hendrix

"Drugs have taught an entire generation of American kids the metric system". … P.J. O’Rourke


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Re: Woke up with my mom crying, betting me to go to AA at 11 [Re: st1llnox]
    #17360616 - 12/09/12 12:15 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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st1llnox said:
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zappaisgod said:
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usudor said:
AA is a joke if you dont wanna quit then you wont and your just going to meet more and more hookups at those meetings.

so quit if you wanna make progress in life or just keeping using and wash out.




Ugh you sound like the people in AA, sans berating it. I think it is a joke and it hurts their members worse long-term.



So says somebody who still lives in his parents' house and can't stop getting fucked up.  You know fuck all about life.




Well, someone woke up on the charming side of the bed today, eh? There are a LOT of assumptions being cast in this post... a LOT, including
1) that I live with my parents (I'm back from college, quite different)
2) that I can't stop getting fucked up




Back from college is living in your parents' home.  You are a dependent.
If you don't like what they think you should do get off their tit.

I have zero sympathy for your desire to do shit that upsets the people who are paying your bills.  You have two choices.  Do what they want or get off their tit.  I would strongly suggest the latter.


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