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InvisibleInnvertigo
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I was wrong....
    #1734605 - 07/21/03 12:43 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I made a promise just after the war ended and said that i was giving the Bush admin. 6 months to find the WMD because i felt that this was a fair amount of time for this to be accomplished. Things have changed. The original reason we went to war was because he had WMD, Correct? Well as you all know that has changed to liberation (which i to this day would have accepted) then that he harbored terrorists then he possessed nukes (the whole African thing) yadda, yadda, yadda.

I still stand by the notion that 1441 granted extreme measures ie: military action, but i based that on intelligence (or lack thereof) that bush had. knowing what i know now (hindsight) i was wrong. I am disappointed with my president and those that perpetuated these lies.


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1734619 - 07/21/03 12:47 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Why'd it take you so long?


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: 1stimer]
    #1734622 - 07/21/03 12:48 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

I made a promise just after the war ended and said that i was giving the Bush admin. 6 months to find the WMD




6 months


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1734640 - 07/21/03 12:57 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

It takes a humble man to admit when he's wrong. Good for you.


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1734657 - 07/21/03 01:03 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I wouldn't feel too bad...many people are still swallowing the bullshit.


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Rono]
    #1734670 - 07/21/03 01:07 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

the last poll has showed Bush at 52% So i believe it's gaining momentum.


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1734743 - 07/21/03 01:33 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

The people who should be most upset at Bush right now are not those who opposed the war but those who supported it based on the evidence that was presented. I admit I bought into some of the weapons claims even though I had my doubts but now that I know that the evidence contained exaggerations, distortions, forged documents and outright lies, I don't know if I could trust the Bush administration again. What's really disturbing is the lack of outrage in the general public. Nobody is holding Bush accountable for this. and he continues to blame the CIA or British intelligence sources, that's pretty sad... This whole thing is starting to stink.



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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1734789 - 07/21/03 01:53 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I don't know about that...I think the Bush administration is going to take the fall for this, and the next puppet will be put in place. Be it Democrat or Republican...


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1734790 - 07/21/03 01:54 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

This whole thing is starting to stink.




starting? I guess i will vote for a third party after all...


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1734818 - 07/21/03 02:05 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I still want to know where all the stuff UNSCOM catalogued went.


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: wingnutx]
    #1734836 - 07/21/03 02:15 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

i'd like to see it as well and if it turns out that they have WMD or that there's "LEGIT" proof that they got rid of them i'll change my mind.


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1734852 - 07/21/03 02:22 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Nice to see that you stand behind your word, I just think you sort of boxed yourself in with an unrealistic timeline.

What do you think about the gas cetrifuge that scientist turned over several weeks ago?


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: wingnutx]
    #1734861 - 07/21/03 02:27 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

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I just think you sort of boxed yourself in with an unrealistic timeline.




you're probably right, but i'm going to keep an open mind concerning all the things we find and any "programs" that they say that Iraq had. This doesn't mean that i don't believe they had WMD nor does it say that i can never change my mind. I am glad Saddam is gone and like i said liberation would of been all I needed but Bush did say it was the WMD.



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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: wingnutx]
    #1734862 - 07/21/03 02:27 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

what gas centrifuge? they found some documents from the early 90's in a scientist's private residence. what does that prove?
and if you're talking about the aluminum tubes they found... they were aluminum tubes... so what?




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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Rono]
    #1734873 - 07/21/03 02:32 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

yeah they might take the fall eventually, but right now people aren't really too upset over this. he still has about a 50% approval rating which is pretty high considering his foreign policy is a disaster and his economic policy is nonexistent.


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1734886 - 07/21/03 02:37 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I believed Bush's and Powell's WMD bullshit until january, so welcome to the club Innvertigo.


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1734890 - 07/21/03 02:38 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

http://www.fas.org/irp/news/2003/06/cia062603.html

Part of one, not an assembled device. Is it for real? It would be silly to either accept or dismiss it out of hand.


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1734892 - 07/21/03 02:39 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

some club....


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1734902 - 07/21/03 02:43 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

6 months to find the WMD because i felt that this was a fair amount of time for this to be accomplished.

Blair is now saying it might take 4-5 years to find them.


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Re: I was wrong.... [Re: wingnutx]
    #1734910 - 07/21/03 02:46 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

dude that clearly says pre-1991 uranium enrichment program which everyone already knew about. their nuclear program was dismantled after Gulf War I and it hasn't been reconstituted as the Bush administration claimed.

I honestly thought that they would find something, a few liters of anthrax or something at the very least... Bush told us that the Iraqis had TONS of this stuff ready to launch. you can't play fast and loose with facts when there are thousands of lives at stake. how does this guy sleep at night?


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