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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1788951 - 08/07/03 11:47 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Heh, I have an uneven number of jars anyway, and being a Virgo, I like things to be even.  So I'll use a couple jars for cakes, just to have that "cake-look," and since you reccomend it.  Besides, not doing ANYTHING yet, I wanna try a lil' bit of everything :wink:

I didn't know corn is grain (lol, sad eh?) but I knew the hominy was corn...it's hard NOT to smell it if nothing else :wink: 

OK, last question.  Do you think it would be MORE effective if one planned to use the hominy as spawn to chop up the hominy (via food processor, blender, or whatever) into fine material before steaming and inoculation (or whatever)?  Personally I think it'd make it very similar to grain, WBS, etc. (in terms of ease of utilization for spawn) without all that extra hassle. 

Lol, what am I saying?  I'll try it out, see what happens, and keep ya'll posted :wink:


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ridd]
    #1789251 - 08/08/03 01:22 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

if i were to 'chop' it up,
i think i'd wait until after it was fully colonized.
then shake it out, chop it a bit, let it recover 24-48 hours, covered under foil in tray, then use as spawn.
proly not really necessary, as you can just use as much hominy as needed to get as many points of inoculation as you want.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1789541 - 08/08/03 02:42 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah you're probably right. I'm talking about using it as spawn for other jars though. Wouldn't it have to be more finely chopped like grain?


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ridd]
    #1791229 - 08/08/03 03:28 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

no, not really.
mycellia spreds so fast on corn/hominy that just a few kernels in a jar is plenty to get it colonized in a week or less.
no other grain is nearly as fast, smaller kernels or not.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ekstaza]
    #1792234 - 08/08/03 10:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I haven't really been following this post, but I noticed this:

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I read one post stating that the hominy used had 14% sodium content. I found some that comes in a huge can for $1.86 but I didn't get it yet because I wanted to ask about salt content. The label said it had 10% sodium and I just wanted to make sure that it would be ok.




I don't think this is possible. Is this 14% daily reccomended intake or grams divided by volume (liters?) May seem like semantics, but it's pretty important when figuring out nutritional content for substrates....

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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: micro]
    #1792278 - 08/08/03 10:39 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I get your point Micro. It was % of recomended intake so I will have to remember to look at the actual content next time. Thanks for pointing that out.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ekstaza]
    #1794954 - 08/09/03 06:31 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

good point.
but whatever it is,
doesn't seem to matter much.
still works.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1819410 - 08/16/03 06:03 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i just finally got set-up ready and went to prep the hominy for casing by spooning it into a tray for the 24 hour recovery when i noticed a big potential pitfall for hominy in jars.

the hominy is so soft and moist that even after sitting several extra days much of the jar's interior areas were still not fully colonized.
to make matters worse, when i used the spoon to break up the grain, the kernels were so soft that the spoon cut right thru them, exposing even more uncolonized interiors.
i left it to recover,
but i'm not very optimistic.
methinks one might do well to consider bag-style growing if one wanted to use hominy.
at least in a bag one could better ensure the mycellia will be able to reach and cover all the kernels even in the middle.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1819502 - 08/16/03 07:38 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the update Hippie3. Im sure something this great had to have a downfall. But I wonder, if the reason it isent fully colonizing the center is excess moisture, how could this be fixed?


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1819540 - 08/16/03 07:59 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

or you could put some verm in it mix it up like brf and jus use homney that will suck up all the extra moister


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: gator00]
    #1819944 - 08/16/03 10:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Im glad i havent innoculated the quarts of hominy yet!..I did make a few smaller ones out of some nice glasses so im thiking that i could just keep them for invitro?  :confused:


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: TxTec]
    #1825491 - 08/18/03 05:34 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

good news.
after sitting a couple days,
all exposed material colonized fully
and it's now ready to use as spawn.
it will be spawned to pasturized 3n1 scotts brand compost, mixed with coir.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1825655 - 08/18/03 07:25 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

So...when the jars *look* fully colonized, one should just wait a couple more days for them to actually fully colonize? Or should one, like you said, case it upon "colonization" and allow time to recover?


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ridd]
    #1826231 - 08/18/03 09:54 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

a few extra days couldn't hurt.
but i did not case it right away,
and neither should you.
instead, pour the colonized hominy out of the jar
into the tray
and cover with foil
and let it just sit a couple days.
the mycellia will quickly cover any exposed areas.
THEN apply the casing layer or use it as spawn.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1827700 - 08/19/03 03:59 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, sorry that's what I meant. Thanks


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ridd]
    #1832618 - 08/20/03 04:49 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

more good news.
the mycellia/hominy is ripping thru the scotts 3n1 which i mixed with coir and verm to lighten it up a bit.
the pie pan casing has already broken thru in a few spots [which were patched] and the foil cover removed.
so far, so good.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1833013 - 08/20/03 07:48 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Hey hippie, I was thinking of using one fully colonized BRF cake as spawn to like a quart and a half of hominy, then use that as spawn in a straw log... is there anything wrong with this?


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1833014 - 08/20/03 07:48 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Hey hippie, I was thinking of using one fully colonized BRF cake as spawn to like a quart and a half of hominy, then use that as spawn in a straw log... is there anything wrong with this?


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1836410 - 08/21/03 04:13 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

no, as long as your sterile procedure is good enough to pull off the transfers. got a decent glovebox ?


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1841243 - 08/23/03 12:44 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Or peroxidated hominy. THough hominy is soggy enough as it is. I'm not sure how it would handle adding peroxide.


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