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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: gator00]
    #1776788 - 08/03/03 09:31 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Free, and you can order them from the USPS website if your local post office doesn't have them (Which is kind of unlikely).

It's nice knowing the federal government will send you free mushroom growing supplies straight to your door.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1777506 - 08/04/03 05:32 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

hey gator,
no offense intended, man,
but these questions of yours are very basic,
not advanced at all.
you're pulling this thread off target.
i mean, i already told you at least twice
that the tyvek envelopes were free, and then you still ask
'are they free'?
there's a thread on this in the regular cultivation forum,
called 'canned corn growing!'
it's more suited to the kind of very basic questions
you keep asking.
plz post in it if you have more questions
that aren't specifically related to hominy.
we shouldn't be having to take so much time in this thread
to explain to you what tyvek is, about your pc, etc.
do some research, there's a FAQ and a search function here.
plz use them to find such basic info.
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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1783960 - 08/06/03 01:32 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I`ve read all i need so it`s time to give it a whirl...Contams shouldnt be a problem at all unless Gator causes you to break everything in the lab!  :crazy:


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: TxTec]
    #1784262 - 08/06/03 05:22 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

soon, we're going to do a few in front of our flowhood,
and try just straight from the can into the jar and inoculate,
no steaming at all.
cuts prep time per jar to just a minute or two.
we'll keep everyone posted as more results come in.
our initial batch of hominy jars are finished colonizing,
and we hope to get them cased by week's end.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1784566 - 08/06/03 09:55 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I read one post stating that the hominy used had 14% sodium content. I found some that comes in a huge can for $1.86 but I didn't get it yet because I wanted to ask about salt content. The label said it had 10% sodium and I just wanted to make sure that it would be ok.

Is it?


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ekstaza]
    #1785283 - 08/06/03 02:13 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

yep.
mine was 14%.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1785323 - 08/06/03 02:28 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Great! Inow have only to go back to the store and get the hominy. The can I'm buying is 5 lb. of hominy if I remember correctly. You just can't go wrong when you can get 5 lbs. of substrate ready for PCing for only $1.86.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ekstaza]
    #1785795 - 08/06/03 04:33 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

i went to a store today, Big Lots, they had "teasdale" brand mexican style hominy in a 6 pound 12 ounce can for $1.49 that's roughly 22 cents a pound, wet weight, not including tax.
and the sodium content was only 7%, the lowest i've seen so far.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1785824 - 08/06/03 04:45 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Hmm, I haven't looked in the mexican section yet. We gots lots o' Mexicans here, and the local grocery stores all have sizeable mexican food selections.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1786245 - 08/06/03 07:04 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

yep, we did get a tip early on that mexican markets might be a good place to find it in quantity cheap.
Big Lots isn't mexican though, it's one of those stores that buys up stuff cheap in bulk, maybe freight damaged or not selling well, and re-sells it at a big discount.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1786275 - 08/06/03 07:16 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

How many quarts can you get out of that jar?


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1786322 - 08/06/03 07:27 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

that big can equals almost 7 regular cans,
and i got 3 qts from 4 cans so figure
about 5 qts depending on how full you go.
so it works out to roughly 30 cents a quart jar.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1786356 - 08/06/03 07:37 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I just inoculated 5 pint jars with white Hominy I picked up from Wal-Mart. 6-pound can for < $2. I steamed the jars and used tyvvek (sp) for the lids. Also I put a thin layer of verm on the bottom of each jar as Hippie suggested to prevent bacterial growth caused by too much moisture (just in case). To inoculate, I used a piece of partially colonized substrate from another jar I have incubating using the PF-Tek method, broke it up in a sterile water jar with glass, and used the mycellium-water for the solution. I used about 1-1/2 ccs of solution per jar. I'll post results as soon as I get them.

Thanks for showing us the tek, Hippie, this is JUST what I wanted as a jump start into bulk growing.

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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ridd]
    #1786413 - 08/06/03 07:54 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

good luck,
i suggest using it spawn for some straw logs/baskets, etc.
that way even if the salt in the hominy itself somehow inhibits fruiting [which is by no means known-just possible] then the added bulk of the straw would go a long ways towards improving yields.
be sure to tape over ~80% of the tyvek so it doesn't dry out the upper kernels too much with too much air exchange..


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1786458 - 08/06/03 08:13 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sorry, I confused tyvek with that cottony substance, I forget what it's called.  I drilled small 1/4" holes into the tops and plugged them with it. 

As for the straw logs/baskets, this is my first attempt at growing mushies, and while I do catch on to things quickly, and have done a TON of research, I wanna get more familiar with the whole process first before I move onto growing bulk.  And to be honest, even Shroomgod's bulk growing FAQ confused me :/ 

Hey - at least this way we'll find out if it fruits OK going straight from colonization to casing, right? :smile:  I have 7 other jars using the traditional PF-tek method, so even if these Hominy jars don't work out, I'll still have some mushies :wink:

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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ridd]
    #1786480 - 08/06/03 08:23 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

ok, i see,
you're talking about polyfil, another good choice.
but don't short change yourself,
straw is amazingly easy,
and i can point you in the right direction.
just do a search here for "straw logs".
straw logs
the thread is right now just a few threads below this one .
but you are wise to be cautious and to hedge your bets,
this is still experimental.


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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1786775 - 08/06/03 10:11 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for all the info, I'm checkin it out as we speak.  Lots of info to sort through ;p  I'll take it all in and post with any obtuse questions I may have :wink:

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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ridd]
    #1787640 - 08/07/03 07:28 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

no prob, take your time, esp. your first few times.
it takes awhile to get the knack,
a few pf cakes as back-up is a pretty good idea,
maybe a few invitro syle as well as terrarium fruited.
casings and bulks like straw require a bit more care
and more elaborate set-ups to do well.
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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Hippie3]
    #1788854 - 08/07/03 02:20 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I don't plan on doing any cakes, it just seems to be an inferior method. Casing only for me ;p

As for spawn, wouldn't Hominy be a poor spawn? It's big ass chunks of solid mass, I figured something loose like grain would be more effective?

I think I'll try mass producing after I try casing first, that way I can have an idea of what pins look like and such. My idea would be to have one quart jar of grain for spawn, then the rest of the jars could be Hominy jars (assuming this works out well) and I can use that as spawn for straw. Good idea?

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Re: The Hominy Project [Re: Ridd]
    #1788929 - 08/07/03 02:42 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

lol
suit yerself.
but don't under-estimate cakes.
they are far easier for new ones,
and can give astonishing yields.

the hominy is broken up into individual kernels as it's removed from the jar for use as spawn.
btw, hominy IS grain.
it's corn.


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