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Is this flow hood to large?
    #17342017 - 12/05/12 11:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Is a 24 by 48 flow hood to big?  I have one I can buy but I am not sure if it is over kill.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17342048 - 12/06/12 12:05 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thats fucking beautiful, but do you need a work area that big?

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: PussyFart]
    #17342072 - 12/06/12 12:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I really do not need that much work space but I can pick it up for two hundred dollars. That is the reason for buying such a large unit. It is made by atmos tech.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17342086 - 12/06/12 12:15 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I really do not need that much work space but I can pick it up for two hundred dollars. That is the reason for buying such a large unit. It is made by atmos tech.



but then you have to think about the massive blower that it's gonna require...those are kind of expensive, unless you get lucky on that also.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: PussyFart]
    #17342106 - 12/06/12 12:19 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Here is a pic.  It is from a cabinet and blows down on work area.  It is variable speed and comes with a clean hepa filter.  It is 110 volt.  I was going to put it on its side and use it that way.  Like I said not sure it is to big. I think it is a good deal.


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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17342137 - 12/06/12 12:30 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If it's able to give a laminar flow, then I would jump on that in a heartbeat.

But how thick is that filter? It looks like it's only 3 inches thick, if that. Most Laminar Flow Hoods are built with at least a 6" thick filter, some with a 12" thick one.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: PussyFart]
    #17342152 - 12/06/12 12:35 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

check this out. What do you think?


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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17342172 - 12/06/12 12:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ok now what are the specs on the blower(s)? Whats the output cfm?

Something is telling me that the blower isn't strong enough to create a laminar flow, because I have never seen a unit that small.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: PussyFart]
    #17342186 - 12/06/12 12:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

shows 1331 cfm.  I just need to be sure cause I have to drive two hours to pick it up.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: PussyFart]
    #17342196 - 12/06/12 12:47 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Ok now what are the specs on the blower(s)? Whats the output cfm?

Something is telling me that the blower isn't strong enough to create a laminar flow, because I have never seen a unit that small.




I posted a pic of spec label above.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17342202 - 12/06/12 12:51 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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shows 1331 cfm.  I just need to be sure cause I have to drive two hours to pick it up.



Thats for the filter right? What about the blower? There is 2 different data sheets you need, one for the filter and one for the blower, that was for the filter I believe.

I'm not sure how to figure out the exact numbers, but u have to add some for dust built up over time and for the prefilter, so my uneducated guess would be a 1500 cfm blower would be needed at least, but i could be wrong.

It would be best to wait for someone else to chime in. But you need the info on the blower.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: PussyFart]
    #17342213 - 12/06/12 12:55 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ok thank you.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17342963 - 12/06/12 07:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Another other input from some one with experience would be appreciated.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17343088 - 12/06/12 08:21 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You might not need a flowhood that big for your workspace but its great to have one to help control the contams while colonizing jars.

Once you have your blower and flowhood, I would buy one of these.


I use low for Agar work or constant filter, Medium for G2G and I only use the high setting a couple hours before any work, just to clear the air in the room.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: Exiledmonkies]
    #17344001 - 12/06/12 11:55 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

More pics


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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17344013 - 12/06/12 11:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I was told it utilizes a uplon filter which has a better filtering ability than hepa. 



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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17345458 - 12/06/12 04:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

What are peoples thoughts on the hood now that you can see pics?  Thanks

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17345848 - 12/06/12 05:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I would snatch that up right away if I were you. If you want to dive head first into Mycology and get started with Agar and iso work, you def need one. Very wise investment.

But that is my opinion. :3

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: Exiledmonkies]
    #17345952 - 12/06/12 06:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

based on the spec sheet and the fact you said its 110v tells me its got a built in blower. I don't think filters alone come with a CFM ratings. The CFM rating should be for the built in blower. sounds like an awesome deal if it does.

if it is a ready to plug and play unit, i'd snatch it. It's prolly overkill, because you only need about 100CFM in your work area. But you could prolly sell it at a mark up or use it to clean your room


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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #17346240 - 12/06/12 06:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There are two blowers inside well fans actually.  And it has an ulpa filter not hepa which has a higher filtration capacity.  I have been reading though that true laminar flow hoods look like this.  .



I can buy this for 375 tomorrow.  Or buy the other for 225.  I was told to get real laminar flow it is best to have the air enclosed like the pic above.  Or the air will want to move off in all directions once is exits along the sides.  What would you do the first or the second one for 150 more?

Oh yea btw I have purchased all my lab gear so yes I am wanting to move into tissue culture work. I kinda get crazy when I get into hobbies and go all out.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17346316 - 12/06/12 07:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I would prolly get the true laminar. But that's because i think the other may not actually be laminar and it may be like a hurricane.

The enclosed work space does not seem to be as important as the laminar flow. As a matter of fact, enclosures have the potential of creating eddies that mix dirty air in with your clean air.

I would hate to spend money on something and it not be right, when i could spend a little more and know its right. I know I hate it because i've experienced it many times.


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I kinda get crazy when I get into hobbies and go all out.



Dude, you're preachin to the choir. Get both:thumbup:


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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #17346366 - 12/06/12 07:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Your jumping into things too quick tho.

There has to be something not right here. No way that thing puts out a Laminar Flow and it's being sold for less than $400...or the other one for $200.

The filters are just too thin or something....I wish someone else with more experience in flow hoods would chime in and help you. In my head that's just too good to be true.

You need info on the blowers and the filters tho.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: PussyFart]
    #17346419 - 12/06/12 07:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Check this one out.  I am also gonna call manufacturer tomorrow to make sure it is a flow hood not some thing else. 



Last thing I want to do is waste money.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17346427 - 12/06/12 07:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There are two blowers inside well fans actually.  And it has an ulpa filter not hepa which has a higher filtration capacity.  I have been reading though that true laminar flow hoods look like this. 
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I kinda get crazy when I get into hobbies and go all out.



Your jumping into things too quick tho.

There has to be something not right here. No way that thing puts out a Laminar Flow and it's being sold for less than $400...or the other one for $200.

The filters are just too thin or something....I wish someone else with more experience in flow hoods would chime in and help you. In my head that's just too good to be true.

You need info on the blowers and the filters tho.




It is actually being sold for more but I talked the guy down.  He is selling stuff off from his business.  These days you can find stuff for less with the economy.  Also I looked up the

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17346433 - 12/06/12 07:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Here is the link to the same model only brand new. 

http://www.labconco.com/product/3-purifier-horizontal-clean-bench-deep-2/3600

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17346439 - 12/06/12 07:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

This may be a killer deal.  I am not sure if it needs new filters that would cost an arm and a leg I am sure.  It takes two hepas.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17346462 - 12/06/12 07:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Here is the link to the same model only brand new. 

http://www.labconco.com/product/3-purifier-horizontal-clean-bench-deep-2/3600




did you see the weight on that thing? and its 230V. Do you have a spot to plug it in?


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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: montegue]
    #17346464 - 12/06/12 07:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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This may be a killer deal.  I am not sure if it needs new filters that would cost an arm and a leg I am sure.  It takes two hepas.



All I know is you can build your own 24x24 Laminar Flow Hood for about $300/$350 using the teks/links here, and you will know its right, and new and works properly.

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    #17346507 - 12/06/12 07:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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This may be a killer deal.  I am not sure if it needs new filters that would cost an arm and a leg I am sure.  It takes two hepas.



All I know is you can build your own 24x24 Laminar Flow Hood for about $300/$350 using the teks/links here, and you will know its right, and new and works properly.




I have to agree 100%. But some people aren't very handy and don't have a place to do work.


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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #17346787 - 12/06/12 08:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There are two blowers inside well fans actually.  And it has an ulpa filter not hepa which has a higher filtration capacity.  I have been reading though that true laminar flow hoods look like this. 
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Here is the link to the same model only brand new. 

http://www.labconco.com/product/3-purifier-horizontal-clean-bench-deep-2/3600




did you see the weight on that thing? and its 230V. Do you have a spot to plug it in?





The newer model is 230 the older one is 110.  Yea it is heavy.  I will call manufacturer tomorrow and get a heads up on specifics.  I think for me I just do not want to go through building one if I can get lab quality gear ready made, all be it used, for the same amount of money.

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Re: Is this flow hood to large? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #17346820 - 12/06/12 08:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Are you sure it's a hood that blows out clean air, and not a hood that is made to go over a work area and suck in air through the filter, and then out through the fans?


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